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csandazoltan #61 Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:26 PM

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The planes wing falling off... I would like to test the aerodynamics of a one winged plane very much...


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ABLE0815 #62 Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:36 PM

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View Postcsandazoltan, on 05 March 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

The planes wing falling off... I would like to test the aerodynamics of a one winged plane very much...

Me too, me too. Don't u received your key yet?

fosforas #63 Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

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probably no keys today

csandazoltan #64 Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:48 PM

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View PostABLE0815, on 05 March 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Me too, me too. Don't u received your key yet?

Nope...


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Sgt_Bones #65 Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

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Not Nope, yep. Just got mine.

Dompteur_BaRBoCC #66 Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:22 PM

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Luckers hmm :>

Voxal #67 Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:55 PM

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so this is topic transforming in another one saying: did you get you're invite yet? nope... well me neither...
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just be patient, whining wont change anything and when you finally get in work hard for future pilots ;)

n0way #68 Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:27 PM

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View PostVoxal, on 05 March 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

so this is topic transforming in another one saying: did you get you're invite yet? nope... well me neither...
Indeed, I would rather avoid seeing this thread degrade into one of 10394 topics about having/not having alpha access.


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Darth_Thanatos #69 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:40 AM

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I got the invitation yesterday.

Today is tier 6 test in eu-alpha.

So I selected my Me-410, pressed the "battle!" button, waited in the queue, and the client crashed on me.

I made a screenshot of the error message window with MWSnap, ran the dxdiag utility, and submitted a ticket, attaching the screenshot and the dxdiag info file, together with the list of programs I had running at the time, including my antivirus and firewall software.

Afterwards, I fired the WoWp client again, entering in the game with no more problems, ran several combats, won some, lost some, and even did one or two kills.

I tried the keyboard only controls, but they made me feel like flying Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

<some content removed>

I haven't submitted a ticket for this because it's not a bug, it's a mistaken design choice, and there is nothing to fix. Re-doing the keyboard handler is not an option at this point.

A tester has to be able to see the difference between something that can be fixed, and something that cannot.
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ABLE0815 #70 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:44 AM

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View PostDarth_Thanatos, on 06 March 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

I got the invitation yesterday.

*CENSORED*

A tester has to be able to see the difference between something that can be fixed, and something that cannot.

Do i smell some NDA infringement here ?? :Smile_glasses:

Darth_Thanatos #71 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:48 AM

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I thought long and hard about it, but no... I think what I commented doesn't fall into NDA territory. It's an example to show the difference between two kinds of events that may happen during a testing session.

Still, I'm willing to edit the post or remove it on the double, if WG thinks it does.
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ABLE0815 #72 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:53 AM

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If you argue that way, i would stick with you. But the info about how input is handled in WoWP could be considered as topic referring to game mechanics.

csandazoltan #73 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:58 AM

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Say goodbye to your WoWp alpha account and your WoWp account!

Gameplay mechanics, controlling systems and other informations!

You seriosly violated the NDA!

According to the NDA, EVERYTHING is confidental, until it is published by wargaming on the site or in other media...

This information can't be posted on global forums, only in alpha tester forums... delete your post immediately if you do not want to be banned... or get reported!


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Darth_Thanatos #74 Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:59 AM

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I was talking about how SWotL handled things, not the WoWp, Windows is totally different from MS-DOS.

Still I removed the explanation, just to be safe. We don't want misunderstandigs here. :)

The key was to show two different situations that a tester may find while testing, not to reveal anything about the game, its design or its mechanics.
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csandazoltan #75 Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:03 PM

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View PostDarth_Thanatos, on 06 March 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

I was talking about how SWotL handled things, not the WoWp, Windows is totally different from MS-DOS.

Still I removed the explanation, just to be safe. We don't want misunderstandigs here. :)

The key was to show two different situations that a tester may find while testing, not to reveal anything about the game, its design or its mechanics.

I agree, but these people in this topic are not testers, explaining to them would be "useless" (no offence intended for non-testers)


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ABLE0815 #76 Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:05 PM

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View Postcsandazoltan, on 06 March 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

I agree, but these people in this topic are not testers, explaining to them would be "useless" (no offence intended for non-testers)

None taken ... so far. :Smile-_tongue:

Darth_Thanatos #77 Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

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View Postcsandazoltan, on 06 March 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

Say goodbye to your WoWp alpha account and your WoWp account!

Gameplay mechanics, controlling systems and other informations!

You seriosly violated the NDA!

According to the NDA, EVERYTHING is confidental, until it is published by wargaming on the site or in other media...

This information can't be posted on global forums, only in alpha tester forums... delete your post immediately if you do not want to be banned... or get reported!
Woah, easy, boy...

I edited the post, even before I read your shoutings, a reasonable objection from Able0815 made me re-check what I wrote, and decided to remove what it might be considered "sensitive", even if it was just an educated guess, and NOT any in-game knowledge, much less programming.


Hmm... I might PM a mod, to have a look at it, and have an authorized opinion. I honestly don't want to reveal anything they don't want people to know...

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View Postcsandazoltan, on 06 March 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

I agree, but these people in this topic are not testers, explaining to them would be "useless" (no offence intended for non-testers)
Actually, my post might discourage some people that are not serious about testing the game, and it might make others think about what "alpha testing" really means, which is the  point of this whole thread.

It's not about playing or about having a sneak peek at the game, but actually helping in its development.

Also, I don't like much your "superior" attitude when it comes to this topic, like if the rest of the people were not "worthy" of getting the "honor" and unable to learn the "enlightened" ways of the "True Testers". Until they prove themselves, you cannot know who is worthy and who is not.
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csandazoltan #78 Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

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I'm sorry for being condescending...

As for my "shout" I've just tried to spare you from the punishment, even if it is a misunderstanding...

If you would see my posts, you could only see attempts to help others...

I'm sorry again...


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Tarskin #79 Posted 13 March 2012 - 03:38 PM

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bump... this really should be a sticky

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Kazomir #80 Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:02 PM

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YOu are right. One might even start to wonder why so many want to test it...




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