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Poll: Bot poll (43 members have cast votes)

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Bot numbers should be like

  1. In patch 1.9.1 (less) (5 votes [11.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  2. In patch 1.9.0 (more) (35 votes [81.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.40%

  3. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. There should be no bots at all (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

Bot skill should be like

  1. In patch 1.9.1 (dumber) (10 votes [23.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  2. In patch 1.9.0 (smarter) (24 votes [55.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.81%

  3. Something else (6 votes [13.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.95%

  4. There should be no bots at all (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

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dreesh #1 Posted 13 November 2015 - 10:20 AM

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Feel free to vote. Hopefully it gets into the right ears (although I think they should make these polls...)

SawnOffLockie #2 Posted 13 November 2015 - 10:46 AM

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Going to put the cat amongst the pigeons here, and say that the bots should be returned to their 1.9.0 state, i.e. more of them and smarter.

 

Although there were times when I was cursing "Super" bots with almost magical abilities, I have found that 1.9.0 was an enjoyable experience. There are more opportunities for high numbers of kills during a battle with bots (Aces scored in September (1.8.4, pre-bot) - 28, Aces scored in October (1.9.0) - 68, Aces scored so far in November as of end of 12th Nov (1.9.1) - 35, including a Gorovets). However the numbers of real people playing do seem to be increasing (purely a subjective view), so maybe we don't need so many at peak times.

 

Off-peak times, the last thing anybody wants is to be returned to the 1.8.4 state of waiting 5 - 10 minutes for a battle and then having to play one on one. So more bots please.


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zed22 #3 Posted 13 November 2015 - 11:09 AM

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Bot skill should be like:

 

it's depend of new/old player

for old one with better skill, the smarter one will be better and for newbe ( in low tier ) the dumb one. putting both type of player in same lvl won't be fun. skill one finish bot fast and newbe can't do much against smart.

 

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and they should change hte behave of GAA bot to do better respond to enemy aronud them.

 

 

 



SawnOffLockie #4 Posted 13 November 2015 - 11:16 AM

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Or just keep it simple & have dumb bots for tier 5 and below, with smart bots for tiers 6 and above.

 

By the time you get to tier 6 you should have enough experience to know what you're doing.



jakub_czyli_ja #5 Posted 13 November 2015 - 11:29 AM

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Even now bots seem to have different skill, some are smarter (few), some dumber (more).

 

From my point of view, as a player, current (1.9.1) bots are much easier to kill, so I wouldn't mind that there would be more of them (like in 1.9) - more exp and credits for me.

And I guess this is the reason WG reduced number of bots to lower incomes - there is a conflict between WG beancounters and players.

 

A side effect of this change is that a single cancerflight in OP planes can again dominate a battle.

 

So lot of dumb bots - would be ok.

Few dumb bots (1.9.1) - some issues as mentioned above.

Few smart bots - issues as above plus more aware bots.

A lot of smart bots - sucks more, yet still better than no bots at all.

 

Special matchmaker for flights should fix the problem, and some tuning for bots - could be a bit smarter but with shorter firing distance, and WG should describe their pilots, consumables and module setups.


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Mickline #6 Posted 13 November 2015 - 11:51 AM

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1.9 was vastly superior to 1.9.1

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Talvathir #7 Posted 13 November 2015 - 01:26 PM

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Voted back to 1.9 and not afraid to admit it but for the love of cheese, do something about their aim. I can deal with the occasional J7 or Yak-9 at 3500m, but that and the bots putting Wilhelm Tell to shame seems like an unlucky combo.

Foxtrox1 #8 Posted 13 November 2015 - 05:17 PM

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I loved the number of bots in 1.9.0. It made the game more fun. New strategies, new interactions and reactions according to your plane.

There was a lot of complaining but the game needs new things and the the bots brings the thing we need right now: Fun into the game. :)


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_Stealth_Hunter_ #9 Posted 13 November 2015 - 09:39 PM

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The large numbers of bots were a great way to prevent the "competitive" snoozefests on Tier VII+ and allowed for more varied types of planes to shine again.

 

I hope we'll see some adjustments to the bots, which might make up for their lack in numbers.

 

 


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maxram68 #10 Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:02 AM

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Also liked 1.9 much more than 1.9.1 for same reasons as already stated above.

 

I'm sure WG had two problems high on their list before release of 1.9.1:

a) Performance issues (lag, high ping times etc.).

b) Complaints about bots being better teammembers than some human players.

 

So they reduced the number and dumbed down bots.

 

"Problem solved" - at least in WG's logic...

...never mind the customers (us, the players).

 



m1nus #11 Posted 14 November 2015 - 12:11 PM

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Bots are still better than alot of human players. To make them worse they must flight straight and shot some trees before they crash on the ground. The perfect solution will be to have more bots in general, but make them harder by tier. In that way people that can't beat high tier bots will stay on lower tiers and either improve to beat them or stay on lower tiers and have fun.

 

As I see it WG is trapped with this game. Can't terminate it cause it will hurt the "World of X" brand and clearly can't attract more people. So either make a WoWP 2.0 or just leave it on 1.9 state that was the most fun version since the game went downhill.



BrushWolf2 #12 Posted 14 November 2015 - 03:45 PM

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Getting more real players in each match is a good thing but on the NA server and I would assume the off hours here you get lots of 7 vs 7 and 9 vs 9 matches instead of the 11 vs 11 to 15 vs 15 matches which are more desirable. On the bot skill I answered other, the level 1 bots did need some toning down but the level 2 & 3 bots didn't as much as I hated the super bots when I ran into one.

 

 


Leirix #13 Posted 14 November 2015 - 07:18 PM

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But! Skilled bots, doesnt mean cheating! Just a few minutes ago a A5M with 1 HP was behind my Do and the rear gunner refused to work. And i know, how to use a rear gunner.

1.9.1 was the usual patch for the unskilled. I wonder, why you, WG, dont learn, that this game isnt for the unskilled. Listen to the good players and dont continuously dumb down this game.


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jakub_czyli_ja #14 Posted 14 November 2015 - 07:50 PM

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There are not enough "skilled" to keep this game afloat, so unskilled are also needed.

Problem is that every thing done for unskilled works twice as much for skilled.


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jrt5 #15 Posted 15 November 2015 - 08:14 AM

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Bots in 1.9 weren't smarter. There was just more of them so they could use cooperation and win this way.

 

1.9.1 was probably the most stupid decision in gaming history. I stopped playing again.



Foxtrox1 #16 Posted 15 November 2015 - 10:14 AM

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It seems the majority has spoken :)

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dreesh #17 Posted 16 November 2015 - 08:22 AM

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View PostSawnOffLockie, on 13 November 2015 - 12:16 PM, said:

Or just keep it simple & have dumb bots for tier 5 and below, with smart bots for tiers 6 and above.

 

By the time you get to tier 6 you should have enough experience to know what you're doing.

 

This! +1

This should be how to modify the skill of bots. Don't put too smart ones for new players.

And after this weekend I saw a lot of new players when flying my low tier reward planes. Bots definitely had a positive impact for attracting more players. :) As far as I remember it was long ago, when the game had 1500 people online.

For higher (7+) tiers more planes, even dumber ones would be an improvement.

 



jakub_czyli_ja #18 Posted 16 November 2015 - 09:30 AM

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I'm afraid x5 daily was more encouraging to play than bots, especially with all teleporting planes in 15x15 battles.

 

https://stats.wotapi...tats/wowp/eu/EU - I think next 2 weeks will show 1.9.1 impact.


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frane #19 Posted 16 November 2015 - 11:38 AM

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Too smart bots will reject people. I think this skill level bots are fine.

CheefCoach #20 Posted 19 November 2015 - 02:41 AM

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Some bots should be genius, some should be idiots, and most should be something between. If there is more genius players, there should be more genius bots. And game should have as near to 15 vs 15 as possible. 

 

I don't really notice difference between bots and player in most cases. 


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