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Foxtrox1 #1 Posted 21 April 2016 - 10:52 AM

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Hey, Guys. :)

After some good thinking I've realised: the Stuka was originally a dive bomber.

So, why shouldn't it have bombs? :medal:

I came up with a good Idea on when and how to add the bombs.

To simplify, here's an image: 

In this way, the Stuka would have bombs. However, the bombs couldn't be installed if the 2x37mm's were installed so that we don't make it too heavy. :trollface:

And then, we would finnaly have an original Stuka Dive Bomber:

ju87d48cw_7.jpg

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Edited by Foxtrox1, 21 April 2016 - 10:57 AM.

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GUTS88 #2 Posted 21 April 2016 - 11:36 AM

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Yes, indeed.

 

I told that when was came german GA tech tree and also still waiting implements for bombs. :sceptic:



_Smok3R_ #3 Posted 21 April 2016 - 11:59 AM

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The Ju 87 G was a tank hunter, it has a proper armament in game.


_Stealth_Hunter_ #4 Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:28 PM

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I don't see why we shouldn't allow bombs and BK3,7 to be carried simultaneously. The IL-2 had a low bombload as well, when equipped with the NS-37, but we can still add the full loads of bombs and rockets.

 

The Ju 87D usually carried 4 x 50kg bombs under the wings and 1 x 250kg bomb under its fuselage, so it should be able to carry the 250kg bomb just fine with the BK3,7 equipped.

 

 


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Foxtrox1 #5 Posted 21 April 2016 - 02:14 PM

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View Post_Stealth_Hunter_, on 21 April 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

I don't see why we shouldn't allow bombs and BK3,7 to be carried simultaneously.

 

 

The thing is Stealth, after everything installed, the Stuka would be too heavy and it would have low maneuverability and speed.

It may not be that very important but I see that many players enjoy the Stuka because of it's adequate speed and maneuverability to intercept enemy Aircraft.

That's the reason I believe it would be best to have 2x20mm's + Bombs (not to mention that it would make the plane balanced in a way and more of a Dive Bomber)

 

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_Stealth_Hunter_ #6 Posted 21 April 2016 - 03:09 PM

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Allowing for an additional bombload wouldn't take away the option to fly the Stuka in "lighter" configurations. It would simply allow players to chose what role they want to fill making it a more versatile aircraft.

 

The 250kg bomb would be really useful for getting rid of "fans" as well. There might even be options to carry the 4 x 50kg bombs below the fuselage on a tray similar to the Fw 190 A-5 as well.

 

I also think the Hs 129 should receive 2 x 50kg bombs under its wings or the WGr. 21 and Panzerblitz rockets, as those were tested/considered for usage.


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Hanszeehock #7 Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:10 PM

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To me, the thing is, why on Earth don't we have a Ju87B in game like yesterday ? 

_Stealth_Hunter_ #8 Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:25 PM

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Because certain planes (Like a second Stuka and the Hs 123) wouldn't have fit the "concept" of this branch. At least that's the answer I got about a year ago after poking the developers enough.

 

I doubt there's much of a concept to the branch anyway, since it's disjointed and inconsistent as Hell...:sceptic:

 

Seems like they mostly threw it together to finally get the Stuka and Hs 129 into the game, to stop people from asking for them.


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Hanszeehock #9 Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:42 PM

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Sounds about right. They could have released the B as a premium, a no brainer really. I suppose it's to be expected because they have missed so many opportunities. Hurricane anyone ? 

Renwor #10 Posted 22 April 2016 - 08:57 AM

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I see one practical problem in having different calibre bombs in one slot.

Which one would be "fired" first? 

 

It got to be two different slots, but it could work, lighter bombs could be fired by :rocket: button.



 


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That's pretty much what the F-84 does in regards to rockets. One of the types is assigned the bomb key.

 


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Renwor #12 Posted 22 April 2016 - 09:14 AM

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I guess, not having F-84. It was just improvement of Foxtrot suggestion, to make it two slots. F-84 has the rockets separated as well.


 


Foxtrox1 #13 Posted 22 April 2016 - 02:28 PM

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View PostRenwor, on 22 April 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

It got to be two different slots, but it could work, lighter bombs could be fired by :rocket: button.

Yes, of course. :)

I meant to put the bombs separately: 4x50kg and 1x250Kg. I just didn't have time to create 2 slots. :playing:

Or, if WG aproves, put just the 4x50 kg bombs. The most probable case. :sceptic:

 

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View PostHanszeehock, on 21 April 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Sounds about right. They could have released the B as a premium, a no brainer really. I suppose it's to be expected because they have missed so many opportunities. Hurricane anyone ? 

 

Why to put the real planes into the game while there is still so many unsuccessful prototypes that could be implemented. 

That way... we have Stukas competitor Ha-137. The irony is... it could carry bombs in the game lol.

 

And then.. we have the Hs-123 competitor, Fi-98... And there is no Hs-123

Not to mention all those epic planes that are missing.

 



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It wouldn't even be hard for them to fill the German GAA branch.

 

Simply move the He 51 to multirole, since it was used in ground attack, then add the Hs 123 and Ju 87 B/D as GAA to Tier III and Tier IV respectively.

 

The Stuka deserves more options anyway. D-Variants could carry WB gunpods with either 6 x 7.62mm MGs each (WB 81) or 2 x 20mm cannons (WB 151/20). Those should really be added.

 

For additional hilarity add the Ju 88 A-13, which carried 4 WB 81 on its external bomb racks. That's a whoopin' 24 x 7.62mm MGs.


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jnishar #16 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:28 PM

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this particular stuka in the game was the tank hunter.. they should, though, implement one the other types aswell

megace4 #17 Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:18 PM

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about this Stuka, i have stopped using it 2 times. If it were for bombs,this Stuka could destroy ground targets more effecrtivly and as a gaa plane.WG classifies it as such. The demerit of flying was bigger than expected result, what´s worse, the gun velocity does not keep in pace with the speed of game at all.I sold it once and it´s resting in the hangar for ever.

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