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wlatopa #1 Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:41 PM

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In your opinion,what are the worst  5 planes in the game?

jakub_czyli_ja #2 Posted 23 March 2017 - 03:29 PM

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As for current state of 1.9 and my memories from playing them: Hs 129 B, Fw 190 D, F-84B, F-84F, La-150. Order quite random.


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Ki43, F84 x2, Jak30, Ta183.

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Didgnmatt #4 Posted 23 March 2017 - 09:32 PM

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TA 152 x 5

it is soo bad i gave up grinding towards TA 183 5 months ago.

3 shots and the guns are french fries, miserable aiming, manoevrability too bad to come back before christmas to finish someone off, just not right.


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PiotrSzut #5 Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:33 PM

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all assaults flatiron  .....

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Some of the worst for my playstyle, but surely not for everyone else's:
Me209(tier5), He100, Bf109G, Il-2(mod), and Ta152

maxram68 #7 Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:17 AM

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Ju-88p - I'm a real moron in most GAA's (clan "mates" will testify that's the case for ALL planes...), but this one clearly takes the #1 spot for me. Worst. Plane. Ever.

 

Mosquito 26 - Even though it's a premium it's a goddamned joke. Chinese fireworks w. engines and some "guns"...at best...

 

Bf109G - That plane certainly ended a long and very rewarding relationship with the previous planes in the 109-line (...crying quitely...)

 

F-84 - Same argument as 109G above (...crying quitely...again...)

 

He-100 - I'll support _MrPig_ here. You might be better off tapping somebody on the shoulder, - that gives more damage

 

 



wlatopa #8 Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:49 AM

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1) P36c. flyswatter guns

2) HE100 idem

3) all BF109 series except 109F

4) f84 series (totally useless even with skilled pilot,not enough fast,not enought firepower,not manouvrable,not altitude,good only in gight vs tier VIII if  you dont find skilled pilots on seafang)

5) FW tier IX and X

 

a little mention for flying brick Javelin and for flying match a6m (all)


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velkovk19 #9 Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:56 AM

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There are not worst plane in the game. There are bad pilot in an unapropriete use of a plane. 

Every plane has it's own "role" and area of operation in the game. If you do not allpy appropriet in the game (read mistakes) you will probably loose. And that did't apply as a rule. This is a team game. If somehow team do well and you contribute there is a chance to make kills and win even in a UP plane. Hapened to me number of times. Last time with the jap plane against flight of two F2H. My main mistake is use of aircrafts above or beyond optimal alt and overuse of flaps sometime.

Planes that I dont like: GA without rear gunner, jap plane tier 8, jak 30, both F84, fw tier 5 and 6, ta 183 with 30mm, swift and so on.



King_ExtincE #10 Posted 24 March 2017 - 12:27 PM

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Pegasus once you're out of rockets, but due to the many inexperienced players down at tier 2, it doesnt quite matter :D

FW190D (gets outturned by a hornet with full payload even in its lightest config.. and it's engine is nothing to write home about either, nor it's accuracy)
P.1092, german tier IX jet powered fighter with the climbing power of an A6M2, even though it's optimum altitude is amongst the highest in the game, wut.

the tier IV republican. It's on paper really fast, granted it does have a long boost duration, but the speed difference with for example an i16 or zero isn't great enough to be able to outrun or outclimb them before getting killed. It's pretty much the FW190D of tier IV/

Ao.192. 


                                                                                                                

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Just a little anecdote about the Bf109G, from the time before I happily sold the plane, probably 2 years ago or so. I once teamed up with two nice chaps I met in game. It was the time when flights of three were still allowed. We had a very succesful battle, and even achieved an epic contribution, for which you have to destroy 12 enemy planes together. My only personal achievement though was to zoom away from the enemies for 5 minutes or so, so that my friends were able to pick them one after another from my tail. In the end one of my flight mates received the Gorovets medal, the other one got 3 kills, and me nothing at all. :medal::amazed:

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View PostLORDDOOMSDAY, on 23 March 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

Ki43 ... Ta183.

 

 

View PostDidgnmatt, on 23 March 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

TA 152 x 5

 

 

View Postmaxram68, on 24 March 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

He-100 - I'll support _MrPig_ here. You might be better off tapping somebody on the shoulder, - that gives more damage

 

 

View PostKing_ExtincE, on 24 March 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

the tier IV republican ... It's pretty much the FW190D of tier IV/

Ao.192. 

 

 

guise ... STAHP.

 

I see this thread is more used to vent frustrations with some planes and not really to point out planes that are objectively bad. So I'll try to help with some planes that I think were a bit misunderstood.

 

Tier 4 republican, aka P-43, is right where that tech tree becomes overpowered. Nothing can catch you in that thing, once you have engine guru II on your pilot. You OWN the high altitude. There's no contest, really. 109B? BHHAHAHA. Come on. This thing can bully anything at T4 with its HP pool and HF rear gunners don't kill it, they just piss it off! When I'm feeling evil, I fly it and ram newbies with it. Closest thing to actually clubbing seals IRL (no, not that I'd know).

 

He-100 has the best flying model tier-for-tier in the game. Of course its guns need to be weak, else it would be so overpowered it's not even funny. Oh, you keep finding yourself in it against IL2(t) rear gunners a lot? Well, you'll just have to kill the enemy fighters faster next time, before your whole team is completely deaded.

 

Ta-152 can be very peculiar, I admit. Lag costs it a lot and you absoluty need to get a grip with its guns, but if you do ... this is by far the most fun plane on tier 8. It's also the epitome of the saying "paper stats mean crap". You see that 2650m altitude preference? Use that mad energy conservation wisely and this thing can outclimb and outmaneuver an Attacker at 4,5k in the late game. I know, I was on the receiving side, when I underestimated it. :)

 

Ta 183? It's the fastest rolling plane in the game. You just nudge the roll button and it does a 720! Use it.

 

Ki 43? Use cannons and laugh at people that get sniped by you at 650m on tier 4. Run circles around I-16s. And try to touch the sun when you're at it.



omglaserspewpew #13 Posted 24 March 2017 - 02:13 PM

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One more thing:

 

View PostKing_ExtincE, on 24 March 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

P.1092, german tier IX jet powered fighter with the climbing power of an A6M2, even though it's optimum altitude is amongst the highest in the game, wut.

 

Same's true for T10 P.1101. It's the result of a massive nerf, because before that, those two planes were OP. So Persha, in its infinite wisdom, overnerfed them.

 

But that actually makes them both very interesting, because they need to be flown in a very specific way. You absolutely need to conserve energy like a madman through the whole match, because your aim is to be the highest standing plane in the late game, where you can actually BnZ the remaining enemies. And the little detail is - you can actually use flaps a lot in dogfights in the midgame and get away with minimal energy loss. Which is what you have to do a lot, because you're the best-armed LF on T9 and you need to keep those guns hot to snowball the match ASAP. You need to find a very careful balance of in-your-face brawling and not getting too messed up. Most interesting plane to fly at T9, I think. When you shoot those cannons, things die.

 

 



King_ExtincE #14 Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:29 PM

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how long since you played ao192? it's horrendous these days.. not faster than anything, cant outclimb anything, boost improves speed by like 1kmh.

 

"with engine guru 2" yeah well, we're talking about how planes perform, not how their pilot skills can compensate for their poor performance, and based on performance, these 5 are my top 5 of worst planes in the game, even including the pegasus even though personally  I love it and it's amongst my favorites.

 

And I am well aware why the p1092 sucks as hard as it does but yeah, the cause is irrellevant.


Edited by King_ExtincE, 24 March 2017 - 05:31 PM.

                                                                                                                

Cheaterhater #15 Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:17 PM

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What omglaserspewpew said. I find it quite hard to believe when people call the He 100 (or the Me 209 V) bad, even though it is easily the most OP fighter on that tier (Heavies might be a different story).

 

Also lol'd at the statement "all BF109 series except 109F". I mean, I'm not usually rude and say such a thing, but: Learn to play. Let me elaborate: This is not about the Bf 109 G. It's about the Bf 109 B and Bf 109 E, which are easily the best (maybe behind the He 100) fighters on their tier. Also, there's nothing wrong with not being good with a certain plane. There's always room to improve. But there's something very wrong about blaming everything on others and making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about the MM being rigged in almost every forum post.

 

There's only one plane I can think of that's really terrible, and that's the F-84B (don't know about the F-84F, as I've given up on the F-84B). That plane has really nothing going for it. Even the J7W2 and La-160, which you could consider sub-par, have their strengths. The F-84B just doesn't.


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reverzibilni #16 Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:48 PM

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For me just 2 planes.

La160 and yak 15.


               
    

benr4ever3 #17 Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:12 PM

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In my oppinion the 5 worst: Yak-19 (slow, poor accuracy of guns, poor health). XP-77 (compare it to for instance the Venon, you tell me). Fw-56 (good in beta, power has crept way past it now...). He-100 (same, but some players seem to do well in it.) & finally AD10C2-  just not good at anything enougth to beat hostiles, and its low health means its gunner is useless. This is just my oppinion though, your oppinions may vary and I havent tried all the planes yet...



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View PostKing_ExtincE, on 24 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

"with engine guru 2" yeah well, we're talking about how planes perform, not how their pilot skills can compensate for their poor performance ...

 

Let me elaborate - even stock the P-43 is a beast, but once you train its pilot, it becomes near unstoppable, unless there are great pilots in 109s or P-43s on the other side. It's fast, has great HP pool, good firepower and solid roll rate. Its turn rate is the only real downside. You can use its HP pool to ram-kill low HP enemies to really make a difference early in the match and that's what wins matches. True, it can't vertically BnZ till tomorrow like 109B or 110B can, but you don't play it the same way as those two either.

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View Postomglaserspewpew, on 24 March 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

(...very long post full of memes "correcting" what others said...)

 

I see this thread is more used to vent frustrations with some planes and not really to point out planes that are objectively bad. 

 

(...more stuff....or...something...)

 

 

The original entry for this thread said: In your opinion,what are the worst  5 planes in the game?

 

Well...some of us took the liberty to list our own goddamned opinions about the question raised.

 

Where's YOUR list, mate ?

 



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I can name some planes that I really feel vulnerable and inferior in.

 

1. XP-77

2. Mossy 26

3. Super corsair

4. FW 190D

5. A6M2

 

EDIT: and please don't take offense; you're all good pilots here and I'm genuinely curious how you can find some best-in-tier planes inferior. :unsure:


Edited by omglaserspewpew, 24 March 2017 - 07:33 PM.





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