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Horcan #1 Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:09 PM

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Im a bit confused about how daily missions are generated, is there an algorithm that pick x y z factors and create one, like do a certain number of capture points, with a specific plane type, over certain areas, attacking or defending etc ? Or are they manually designed and someone actually test them if they are doable. Because there is not a single day that i dont come across a mission that i find next to impossible to complete in every tier category ( i know im not a great player, but still , they should be doable by every casual average Joe ), like destroy 15 ground targets ( i cant even imagine being done at teir 1-4 , the bases are captured very fast, they are very few and games end preety fast ) , or do 3-4k combat points while defending without die or it reset ( i guess there can be very good and lucky players that find this very easy, but to do that amount only by killing planes ( 200 or 75 points each ) is very hard for me especially at 9-10 ) .

Not to mention the ones that i consider retarded, like assist in destroying 40 planes, i mean seriously, that involve you shooting bots to few points and hope someone in your team will finish him , or you go completly insane until you finish mission by fair assists.

I know support does not play the game, i opened ticket about 75 gold mission that wasnt working, and 3 different guys told me its working fine, and two of them didnt know replays are disabled and kept asking me for replay. But not even devs play the game? Do they find this missions interesting and doable?



omglaserspewpew #2 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:29 AM

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If you look at some of the developer videos they posted in the past years, you'll see a certain black kitty that is strolling through the studio and is Persha's resident house cat. Now, why would they need a cat for? You'd think it's for hunting mice, being petted and looking pretty in videos, but this is not the case! For that cat is none other than the mission selector herself! It is by the will of that black creature and its twisted mind that you get "25.000 exp with multiroles" missions and similar. Because, as we know, cats are a bit of sociopaths. So next time you get impossible missions, blame the cat.

Pitulusu #3 Posted 15 November 2017 - 05:52 AM

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seems that they are more and more harder to make... kill 40 planes over command center in heavy fighter... really? first of all command center i get like 1 in 3-4 games, then heavy fighter aințt fighter to make easy kills so you will need like 20-40 games for this mission in a single type of planes...

rainmakerltu #4 Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:22 AM

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View PostPitulusu, on 15 November 2017 - 05:52 AM, said:

seems that they are more and more harder to make... kill 40 planes over command center in heavy fighter... really? first of all command center i get like 1 in 3-4 games, then heavy fighter aințt fighter to make easy kills so you will need like 20-40 games for this mission in a single type of planes...

 

I need multirole fighter for that mission. I have noticed that second time now - missions are different for different people.

omglaserspewpew #5 Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:01 AM

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View Postrainmakerltu, on 15 November 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

 

... missions are different for different people.

 

Of course they're different. The cat sees into everyone's soul.

bsen_g #6 Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:24 PM

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A lot of the tasks don't make sense. Two of mine at the moment are "assist to destroy ground targets" and "assist to destroy aerial targets". Am I supposed to 'nearly' destroy a target and then leave it to be finished off by somebody else?

 



rainmakerltu #7 Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:37 PM

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View Postbsen_g, on 15 November 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

A lot of the tasks don't make sense. Two of mine at the moment are "assist to destroy ground targets" and "assist to destroy aerial targets". Am I supposed to 'nearly' destroy a target and then leave it to be finished off by somebody else?

 

 

With ground targets is easy when there are two of you attacking. One kills the AA itself (gun), when other drops bomb and kills the ground target completely. You will get assist. At least I did this mission like that. Overall you think correct. With aerial - shoot but not kill every plane you can. Rear gunner sometimes makes many assists when flying under group of dogfighting folks. He shoots at enemies which eventually get killed by someone else.


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bsen_g #8 Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:32 PM

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So, my team has a few members with 'assist' daily tasks. They cannot help the team win because they cannot kill targets if they want to achieve the daily task. The daily task that says 'assist' and 'only if you win' becomes almost impossible to complete because I cannot help the team to win.

If I'm in a one to one dogfight, I can not kill the opposition. I have to damage  it and run away and hope he doesn't kill me ( which is exactly what happens). Kind of defeats the whole game doesn't it!



rainmakerltu #9 Posted 24 November 2017 - 12:06 AM

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Well if you look into that like this, you really not gonna win. Help each other through series of battles. Shoot pew pew at one enemy, while coming onto your chosen target and finish him. I did assist missions long. While not pursuing your missions, it happens anyway, naturally. Just don`t focus on them too heavily. If you need kill, kill it. There will be next chance.

Rear gunner is good at making assists, but need change course often so he could shoot at more targets.

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Renwor #10 Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:42 PM

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Those kind of missions are in fact quite easy, they complete themselves ... in time.

But they can be annoying if you are pursuing their completion actively - if you absolutely need to complete such mission TODAY!!!  particulary the 'win' part could be quite an obstacle.



 


Pitulusu #11 Posted 24 November 2017 - 02:51 PM

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they see that i have only a T8 British fighter and gave me ground targets and German and Japanese planes mission...

Jonagus #12 Posted 24 November 2017 - 10:17 PM

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View PostRenwor, on 24 November 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

Those kind of missions are in fact quite easy, they complete themselves ... in time.

But they can be annoying if you are pursuing their completion actively - if you absolutely need to complete such mission TODAY!!!  particulary the 'win' part could be quite an obstacle.

 

"Complete such mission TODAY" if would be tomorrow would not be DAILY missions, it is not ? I think the right name it should be weeklly missions ...

 

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rainmakerltu #13 Posted 25 November 2017 - 01:21 AM

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Hm... I think that it is needed to remove word "daily" from there. Since you started progressing in mission it don`t reset/renew by other mission. And that is good IMO. Also there could be say five, not three of them. Maybe even more. They could repeat, since we don`t do them all (some we can`t because we don`t have required lvl planes or specific planes; we don`t do them because it is not worth to waste time for measly reward, in our opinion etc). When skipped mission come next time, maybe we`ll do it.

Pitulusu #14 Posted 25 November 2017 - 10:09 AM

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yeah, reset ed today and they gave me another impossible mission for T8-10.... 4 times in a row... never mission for fighter! now i got for HF and multipurpose after misssions for different nations, 10000 capture and attackers!

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View PostPitulusu, on 24 November 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

they see that i have only a T8 British fighter and gave me ground targets and German and Japanese planes mission...

 

Missions are random. Just keep replacing them until you find one you can finish. And increase variety of t8 planes. 
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SirTenDeath #16 Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:39 PM

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They should make them more like the ones in WoT Blitz ...

 

Fly a total of 10km in any number of sorties.

Get 5 kills in a tier 3 plane.

Get 10 hits on an enemy aircraft in a single battle.

...then everybody would be happy :trollface:



Keulz #17 Posted 02 December 2017 - 10:33 AM

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View PostHorcan, on 13 November 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

Im a bit confused about how daily missions are generated, is there an algorithm that pick x y z factors and create one, like do a certain number of capture points, with a specific plane type, over certain areas, attacking or defending etc ? Or are they manually designed and someone actually test them if they are doable. Because there is not a single day that i dont come across a mission that i find next to impossible to complete in every tier category ( i know im not a great player, but still , they should be doable by every casual average Joe ), like destroy 15 ground targets ( i cant even imagine being done at teir 1-4 , the bases are captured very fast, they are very few and games end preety fast ) , or do 3-4k combat points while defending without die or it reset ( i guess there can be very good and lucky players that find this very easy, but to do that amount only by killing planes ( 200 or 75 points each ) is very hard for me especially at 9-10 ) .

Not to mention the ones that i consider retarded, like assist in destroying 40 planes, i mean seriously, that involve you shooting bots to few points and hope someone in your team will finish him , or you go completly insane until you finish mission by fair assists.

I know support does not play the game, i opened ticket about 75 gold mission that wasnt working, and 3 different guys told me its working fine, and two of them didnt know replays are disabled and kept asking me for replay. But not even devs play the game? Do they find this missions interesting and doable?

 

They're randomly picked in the list (not up to date with 2.0, but you get the idea):   http://wiki.wargaming.net/ru/%D0%95%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B8_WoWP

As to wether or not they're doable, i honestly don't think the bothered to test with 2.0 or they wouldn't have let us struggle with coomand centers related mission for tier I-IV since there is almost no CC at these tiers...






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