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shrapnel_bait #1 Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:06 PM

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Now that I've had a chance to use all the bombers, with the exception of the RB-17, I think the most OP for it's tier has to be the Blenheim at tier 3 closely followed by the Do-217M at tier 6. The Blenheim is almost interception proof in tier 3 and 4 battles since there are only about 4 or 5 planes in those tiers that can reach it, and their normally too busy hunting planes at lower altitudes to bother about Blenheim's, and the rapid reload for it's bombs means you can get a lot of damage done during an average battle. The Do-217M is good because it has a reasonable bomb load and you can drop bombs individually, which means you can walk your bomb load across an objective, it's let down only by the longer reload time for the bombs and the unfortunate fact that almost every fighter it will face in battle can reach it. 

jakub_czyli_ja #2 Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:52 PM

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For every plane able to climb to bomber altitude, a bomber isn't OP, but UP - it's a free frag.

Starting from Fw 57 at tier III, always capable Bf 110B, giving fun and profit Bf 110 C-6, every heavy fighter at tier V, even Beaufighter, IIRC bothered to kill bombers with Spit I and even Ia, then at tier VI some light fighters don't even have to climb so high, because they have over 500 meters cannon range...

Free frag is a free frag.



omglaserspewpew #3 Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:16 PM

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Well, jakub, I'd like to see you climb in a FW57 up to my Blenny, because I will win 90% of the time just by ramming you. :trollface:

 

EDIT: I would say Blenny is the most OP bomberer at the moment. Every other bomber can be hunted down rather easily, although some will give the predators a run for their money with their defensive guns.


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View Postjakub_czyli_ja, on 04 January 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

For every plane able to climb to bomber altitude, a bomber isn't OP, but UP - it's a free frag.

Starting from Fw 57 at tier III, always capable Bf 110B, giving fun and profit Bf 110 C-6, every heavy fighter at tier V, even Beaufighter, IIRC bothered to kill bombers with Spit I and even Ia, then at tier VI some light fighters don't even have to climb so high, because they have over 500 meters cannon range...

Free frag is a free frag.

 

​Seems strange then that out of 32 battles in my Blenheim I've only been shot down twice, and only once by a fighter and that was because we had seized all the objectives and so with nothing else to do I went hunting for the other teams bomber in my Blenheim and dropped low enough for a FW-57 to jump me, as I said most fighters tend to stick to lower altitudes rather than climb to hunt bombers at tiers 3 and 4.

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The Blenheim is a cash cow. It's easy to  be one of the best players of  the team by preparing the ground for them.  My only bomber among lots of heavy fighters. I play it when I'm too tired for the other planes. Good investment like the other Blenheims too.
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i have the tier 3 british, tier 5 german bomber and the tier 6 American bombers. They are all great, cant really say which is best.

Keulz #7 Posted 06 January 2018 - 09:29 AM

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Well, i have all of them and i prefer the big bomb type, not the salvo type. And it's easier at low tier, since you're lower, so much less spray and pray... 

 

Or maybe, the best is this one :

 

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jss78 #8 Posted 06 January 2018 - 10:22 AM

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What's the low-down on the new German bombers? Equally good for their respective tiers? Just curious since I can't play them yet...

 

View Postshrapnel_bait, on 04 January 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

​Seems strange then that out of 32 battles in my Blenheim I've only been shot down twice, and only once by a fighter and that was because we had seized all the objectives and so with nothing else to do I went hunting for the other teams bomber in my Blenheim and dropped low enough for a FW-57 to jump me, as I said most fighters tend to stick to lower altitudes rather than climb to hunt bombers at tiers 3 and 4.

 

Yeah, I'm 36 games in with the Blenheim, and I've been intercepted just once. That was by a Bf-109B in a Tier IV game. In Tier III games I'm assuming the Fw 57 could theoretically reach me -- in practice, you tend to be safe.

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Tier 3 Blenheim is by far the best bomber, tier for tier, in my opinion. It is very consistent in being able to take out ground targets, has fast reload of bombs and generally operates at an altitude where few planes on that tier can reach it.

Tier 4 german bomber is good looking, but that's about it. It's an ok bomber, but not brilliant. The same goes for the tier 5 one. Both are seriously lacking in the self defense department and can be wrecked easily.

The tier 6 german is epic. 8 250kg bombs that drop individually means you can take a base in one pass. One minute reload is painful, but any less and it would be seriously OP. Self defense gunnery is better than its tier 4 and 5 bretheren, but still nothing to write home about.

The US tier 6, A26B, is probably the most fun to play. OK:ish bomb load, good self defense and 6 x 50 cal in the front presents the pilot with options. Can be used as a ground attacker at low altitude. Not my style, but I've seen friends use that tactic to good effect.

RB17 is the true monster. Good bomb load, fast and good altitude performance enables it to get a lot done in a short time. The party piece is its rear gun that can, and often will, be the doom of anyone trying to get to you. Even equal tier heavy fighters will have a challenge approaching you from the rear. RB17 also prints money. A good battle means 400k+ credits.


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View Postgumpbert, on 07 January 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

RB17 also prints money. A good battle means 400k+ credits.

 

Still less than other tier VIII premiums...



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Rb17 feels like a bs for me. Maybe everyone else is flying theirs at 2km and tail gunning at the same time as bombing, but I find from 3.9km either its bombs are too weak to do much damage or their spread is too big. Although in most battles I do more damage than gaa, they end up finishing what my bombs did not and they get more points than me. Instead in tier 6 german bomber. What you bomb you destroy from any altitude instead of peeling it for a gaa to steal.

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For me the best bomber by tier is torn between blenheim and DO. The a-26 and rb-17 are maybe good if you have forgotten to take ritilin and like multitasking at low altitude. Not for me

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View Posthollowbaron, on 07 January 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

 Although in most battles I do more damage than gaa, they end up finishing what my bombs did not and they get more points than me. Instead in tier 6 german bomber. What you bomb you destroy from any altitude instead of peeling it for a gaa to steal.

This is also what i don't like with inaccurate salvo bombers.

I want to be able to aim, not just approximatively spread.



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View Postjakub_czyli_ja, on 04 January 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

Free frag is a free frag.

 

Yep, I've been shot down by Yaks and BF109's too ...

Once they're in range they can kill you. 2K is not a safe altitude, especially over a base with heavy AA.

But most pilots only out for dogfights and many kills don't bother luckily ...



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While bobmbing at 3700 meters, I have not been shot down in my A26 yet.

 

Only a couple of lone heavy fighters have bothered to climb that high, and I easily dispatched them manning the turrets while they were trying to not stall.



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Can you switch between the turrets on the A-26 ??

I've only got planes with just 1 rear-gunner, so I can only use that gun.



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View PostGonerNL, on 09 January 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

Can you switch between the turrets on the A-26 ??

I've only got planes with just 1 rear-gunner, so I can only use that gun.

 

It takes the turret(s) that has/have a fire arc on your current target, there is still only 'one' turret view

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View PostKeulz, on 07 January 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

 

Still less than other tier VIII premiums...

 

Perhaps, but I find it much more consistent in bringing me those monies.

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View Posthollowbaron, on 07 January 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

Rb17 feels like a bs for me. Maybe everyone else is flying theirs at 2km and tail gunning at the same time as bombing, but I find from 3.9km either its bombs are too weak to do much damage or their spread is too big. Although in most battles I do more damage than gaa, they end up finishing what my bombs did not and they get more points than me. Instead in tier 6 german bomber. What you bomb you destroy from any altitude instead of peeling it for a gaa to steal.

 

3.9 km is much too high for the RB17. Try to stay between 2.5 and 3.0 km for consistent results. Increase altitude if need be while travelling between caps, then go back down for the bombing run.

I've found that 3 km is the upper limit for consistent results with the tier 6 german as well. It might be more forgiving than the salvo bombers but it still has an optimal altitude for bombing.



jakub_czyli_ja #20 Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:37 PM

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View Postgumpbert, on 10 January 2018 - 08:03 PM, said:

3.9 km is much too high for the RB17. Try to stay between 2.5 and 3.0 km for consistent results. Increase altitude if need be while travelling between caps, then go back down for the bombing run.

I've found that 3 km is the upper limit for consistent results with the tier 6 german as well. It might be more forgiving than the salvo bombers but it still has an optimal altitude for bombing.

For heavy fighters also.

Just wait till players will learn about low hanging fruits.

In 1.9 they were GAA, now bombers are even easier - HF doesn't have to go out of his comfort zone, where not much light fighters can reach him - if there is a central spot, go there, take them down, fly towards enemy spawn point, kill them again.






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