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BravelyRanAway #1 Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:11 AM

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With this new game V 2.0.....is there a way to see your win rate in each plane?...If not....why not?

All I can find is the overall WR for my account.


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VeryRisky #2 Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:31 PM

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No there isn't and it's very annoying as you can't really get a decent idea of how well you are doing in a plane without it.

Keulz #3 Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:28 PM

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Yeah, it's kind of stupid. At least, if they had remove all WR alltogether, not even the total WR, that would have made some sense, but like that, not really.

 

It may be because of the forward airbase. The fact that you can change plane ingame mess a lot of stats. 

Imagine, you have 1 game in plane A  with100 %WR, one with plane B with 0%. Then you have a battle with A and respawn in plane B and win, how would you calculate the new winrate for B ?



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View PostKeulz, on 08 January 2018 - 02:28 PM, said:

It may be because of the forward airbase. The fact that you can change plane ingame mess a lot of stats. 

Imagine, you have 1 game in plane A  with100 %WR, one with plane B with 0%. Then you have a battle with A and respawn in plane B and win, how would you calculate the new winrate for B ?

Yep....never thought of that spanner in the works.:(


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Keulz #5 Posted 08 January 2018 - 03:42 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 08 January 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

Yep....never thought of that spanner in the works.:(

 

Yeah, i like the idea, but right now it's so under used, it should just be removed. There isn't enough games with these bases to start developping strategies for making that usefull.

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They could still show the winrate, despite the possibility to fly more than one aircraft in a battle.  

Keulz #7 Posted 09 January 2018 - 04:23 PM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 09 January 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

They could still show the winrate, despite the possibility to fly more than one aircraft in a battle.  

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So, you read why it would be a problem and still thought 'they could just do it' ???

 

But do what ? How would they managed to deal with multiple planes used in one battle ?

 

I'm blown away by your post, it's like someone is telling you he has only one leg and you just go with 'you could still walk, despite having one leg'.

At least, suggest a way to deal with the problem, like using clutches.



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Easy, make only count the WR for the plane you picked to enter the battle. 

Keulz #9 Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

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View PostEviscerador, on 09 January 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Easy, make only count the WR for the plane you picked to enter the battle. 

 

So you could farm the WR of a plane by actually playing another.

(even though, with the current number of airbases, it would be the less bad solution)



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View PostKeulz, on 09 January 2018 - 04:23 PM, said:

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So, you read why it would be a problem and still thought 'they could just do it' ???

 

But do what ? How would they managed to deal with multiple planes used in one battle ?

 

I'm blown away by your post, it's like someone is telling you he has only one leg and you just go with 'you could still walk, despite having one leg'.

At least, suggest a way to deal with the problem, like using clutches.

 

If you accept the WR for the plane as the percentage of battles in which the plane made one or more sorties that resulted in a victory for the player's team then yes it's pretty simple.   I don't see it needs to mean something else.

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View PostKeulz, on 09 January 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

 

So you could farm the WR of a plane by actually playing another.

(even though, with the current number of airbases, it would be the less bad solution)

 

But remember the overall winrate is unaffected, though yes you could get an inflated winrate for a particular plane by only bringing it out as a secord or third sorties if the battle looked like it was heading for a win.   But you have to ask does that really matter to any of us?

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View PostVeryRisky, on 09 January 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

 

But remember the overall winrate is unaffected, though yes you could get an inflated winrate for a particular plane by only bringing it out as a secord or third sorties if the battle looked like it was heading for a win.   But you have to ask does that really matter to any of us?

 

To some people, yes, very much. That's stupid, i agree, but you know. People.

 

But there could be another WR. Like % of sorties in a won fight. But that would be something different...



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View PostKeulz, on 09 January 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

To some people, yes, very much. That's stupid, i agree, but you know. People.

 

But there could be another WR. Like % of sorties in a won fight. But that would be something different...

 

But that's the tail wagging the dog, surely?   Really does it matter if someone comes on the forum to show off a WR in plane A that shows 1 sortie per battle and a lot of battles in a more OP plane or something?   If people want to waste their time with that that's their problem.   I'm not particularly interested in his stats or your, but I would like more detail about mine, you see.

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View PostVeryRisky, on 09 January 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

  I'm not particularly interested in his stats or your, but I would like more detail about mine, you see.

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View PostKeulz, on 09 January 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

But there could be another WR. Like % of sorties in a won fight. But that would be something different...

And then, to just pad WR, when battle is clearly won, statpadders who managed to die yet would crash and respawn in 10 seconds, and maybe even once more, making from one won sortie 2 or 3.


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View Postjakub_czyli_ja, on 09 January 2018 - 10:56 PM, said:

And then, to just pad WR, when battle is clearly won, statpadders who managed to die yet would crash and respawn in 10 seconds, and maybe even once more, making from one won sortie 2 or 3.

 

Yeah, that's true...

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View Postjakub_czyli_ja, on 09 January 2018 - 09:56 PM, said:

And then, to just pad WR, when battle is clearly won, statpadders who managed to die yet would crash and respawn in 10 seconds, and maybe even once more, making from one won sortie 2 or 3.

 

But it's rvvealed pretty easily if they have a short avg sortie duration and close to one sortie per battle.   Oh and they have to win the battle to benefit..........

 

And remember all this is only theoretically padding individual plane rates not the overal WR.   If there overall WR is poor then they won't be able to pad.

 

 

 

 


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