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Sael_ #1 Posted 27 February 2018 - 03:25 PM

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Pilots!

Please share your feedback about the new game mode Invasion in this thread. You can find more info about it here.

 

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Thomas_Cucinschi #2 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:02 PM

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Unternehmen Westwall war schon gut.Die Karten sind selbsterklärend und durch den Zeitdruck sollte man um so mehr diese verstehen und zusammen arbeiten.Leider ist das nicht so,zur Zeit ist die Dummheit - Ignoranz sowie fehlende Kameradschaft ein ständiger Begleiter.Die ersten 4 Missionen waren am Freitag mit Leichtigkeit geschafft.Am Sonnabend war die 5. Mission-25 Verteidigungsflugzeuge abschießen , wenn dann nach 8 bis 10 Verteidigungen endlich ein Angriff kam waren auch meine Begleiter da.Unterm Strich ist es für mich das meine Statistik in den Keller geh und nichts erreicht wird.Wenn ich nicht in der Lage bin mir die zwei Flugzeuge zu verdienen ( aus welchen Gründen auch immer ) dann habe ich sie eben auch nicht verdient , so ist zumindest meine Meinung.Mal sehen wie Invasion wird - manchmal trifft man sie noch die Kameradschaft..

 

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Thomas_Cucinschi #3 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:05 PM

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steht leider anders wie geschriben Danke

delon9379 #4 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:53 PM

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Wielkie g.... spieprzona gra wszystko co mogliście spieprzyliscie gra się wiesza co chwila problemy z hangarem jak zwykle zreszta w waszym wykonaniu

 



dreambill #5 Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:13 PM

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I Kinda like it better than Conquest.

To explain myself, I completely Dislike Conquest, so Invasion is an improvement over it, in some places.

 

First It doesn't have the moronic neutral faction in it and the constant swapping of objectives back and forth which creates an absolute mess and has results where no one understands how they have been produced.

 

Second the limitation of available re spawns demands again from the players to start mind their plane's lives (a little) and not just wondering around recklessly ignoring being shot down.

 

Third The progression of the battles is clear, as it is the objective for every team, and winning or loosing has a clear connection as to how each team (and individual) plays. (In conquest this is absent or very questionable at least)

 

It certainly needs some balance, its 60%-40% in favor of defense, but I had loses as defender and also wins as attacker. Overall IMHO a better mode than atrocious conquest.

What Definitely needs to change is the moronic UI (as in conquest) which gives very little info, SPLIT into 2 different screens. I hit twice on a mountain trying to read the map in the second (tab) screen and got dizzy altering screen all the time.

the Map must return in his old place in the main screen (as at the rest WG titles) and the radar-map hybrid (witch fails both) should be Radar as in V1.9.  Also info about enemy plane type - distance - pilot name should be present in main screen and not split between main-alt view.

As for the (NON) flight behavior of planes this always should return to V1.9 levels, as it is atrocious (as in conquest)



Dr_Ar_MG #6 Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

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sometimes defenders team attacks to the attackers spawn point.

attackers has 2 choise

1- engage them and defeat

2-ignore them and try to attack the bases but they will not allow them so die

 

sometimes human players in defenders team has low alt fighter and attackers team has human bombers.

bots are idiots so if the human bombers go high there's no way to kill them, so it's a defeat

 

many times just 1-2 humans in each team.you don't have a suitable plane you will lose, maybe bots do something if you were lucky...

 

in 90% of battles defenders team just should focus on attack aircrofts specially high tiers ( no bombers), it's guaranteed defeat for attackers

 

many problems is due to the bad 2.0 not about conquest, invasion , ... ar any new mode.

like this :

Spoiler

 

the asymmetric battle could be a very challenging and fun mode but it must be fair. the mechanism of capturing was terrible and you repeat it in invasion. 

it was good if :

two teams, one teams bombers + escorts vs defenders.

the game has 2-3 waves ( all planes could respawn 2-3 ).

 

-if the attackers could destroy all defenders and +50% of ground targets they are winner

or

-if the attackers could support bombers and bombers destroyed +80% of ground targets they are winner

 

else

defenders are the winner.

 

the percentages (+50% , +80%) were just example they must be fixed and balanced to have a fair battle.

attack aircrofts in team attackers could destroy AAs to help the team and finish ground targets.

 
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Edited by Dr_Ar_MG, 08 March 2018 - 12:40 PM.


Eltifa #7 Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:29 PM

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Dear Admin,

This game is suck. My task is to capture 10 sectors, and you give me 7x in a row to defend.....

I got the feeling that you dont want somebody can achieve the goals, so you can sell certificates.



jb1964 #8 Posted 17 March 2018 - 08:45 AM

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Also in meinen Augen der letzte Dreck! die Missionen sind doch unspielbar !!!!  allein Aufgabe 5 ständig auf der falschen Seite. ich konnte die 25 Verteidigung Flieger nicht abschießen, weil ich immer auf der Verteidiger Seite war!

und was soll überhaupt teamspiel sein? sowas gibt es hier nicht jeder macht sein Ding wie er es eben grade braucht. und auf Sieg zu spielen habe ich schon lange aufgegeben da der MM eine Seite immer bevorzugt und die dann auch (meistens)

Gewind  Aber was schreib ich hier überhaupt noch? WG will seit der 2.0 Version ja nur noch abzocken!!! Missionen unspielbar machen und hoffen das es ein paar (dumme) Spieler kaufen und zwar total überteuert.

T 8 Prem. kostet ca. 40 - 45 € und die hier im Event ca. 52 € pro Nase.

Da wartet man doch besser bis der ganze Schwindel vorbei ist und kauft die Flieger 10 € bzw. 20 € günstiger und schont seine Nerven damit , oder wartet bis sie mal im Angebot mit 15 % Rabat zu haben sind.



Shark1530 #9 Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:48 PM

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Well it say give us feedback, so feedback would be something like this; My place/rating is around 1100-1200 it means official I am in 10% best players, if you remove WG staff, players who do not play, or players with benefits if there are, I am probably among 5% best players. In invasion mod I do only 2-3 missions with honors but accidentally. Now I try on purpose to do 1 mission with hounor - to kill 12 enemy and must not be destroyed, and so far I get most 9 and game ended before I could kill 3 more. Or we were overrun or teamate take kill from me etc. Looked best players from each team no one did 12 kill, not to mention - You can not be destroyed even 1 time. So if I can not do as among 5% best players, how anybody would do? So as someone mention, not much mission if it can not be done...

Edited by Shark1530, 17 March 2018 - 05:59 PM.


jakub_czyli_ja #10 Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:58 PM

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You should really lower the requirements for secondary objective in missions related to Invasion game mode. Particulary the missions where you need to get 300 invasion points without dying , in current state it's practicly impossible because either you'll run out of teritories from which to earn points either you'll get killed. This mission would totally fine if you would be allowed to loose and die couple of times or simply reduce the required invasio points to 225-240. Other mission is 12 kills without dying , in most cases you run out of planes not to mention you're not allowed to die aswell..... 12 kills is way too many reduce it to 10 at most , the the mission might be somewhat achieveable. All the missions that require to you do some ridicilous amounts of points/kills should not have win restrictions!!! It's hard to get them done in begining, and it is near impossible when you have to worry about victory or surviving , ease up atleast on something , cause current requierements are way too high , like some kind of record battles, which an operation event should never be! There are a lot of issues to many missions but theese 2 are particulary practicly impossible in current state.

 

Also it doesn't always count the battle i did already 2 times the 5th mission for XF15C, got 15 ground targets and survived without dying once and it didn't count it TWICE!!!! Same goes for the 3rd mission for Do-335 it doesn't count the battles where you get 15 ground target kills!!! Atleast for me, in total i did it 3 times and none of them counted!!! Fix this issue where mission simply refuse to admit to be completed!!!



0viking0 #12 Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:35 PM

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View PostShark1530, on 17 March 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

Well it say give us feedback, so feedback would be something like this; My place/rating is around 1100-1200 it means official I am in 10% best players, if you remove WG staff, players who do not play, or players with benefits if there are, I am probably among 5% best players.

 

Sorry bro... but Your stats shows that You are among average or below average players. Skill has nothing to do with your place.

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jakub_czyli_ja #13 Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:32 PM

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View Post_TIGER_BLAST_, on 17 March 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

You should really lower the requirements for secondary objective in missions related to Invasion game mode. Particulary the missions where you need to get 300 invasion points without dying , in current state it's practicly impossible because either you'll run out of teritories from which to earn points either you'll get killed. This mission would totally fine if you would be allowed to loose and die couple of times or simply reduce the required invasio points to 225-240. Other mission is 12 kills without dying , in most cases you run out of planes not to mention you're not allowed to die aswell..... 12 kills is way too many reduce it to 10 at most , the the mission might be somewhat achieveable. All the missions that require to you do some ridicilous amounts of points/kills should not have win restrictions!!! It's hard to get them done in begining, and it is near impossible when you have to worry about victory or surviving , ease up atleast on something , cause current requierements are way too high , like some kind of record battles, which an operation event should never be! There are a lot of issues to many missions but theese 2 are particulary practicly impossible in current state.

 

Also it doesn't always count the battle i did already 2 times the 5th mission for XF15C, got 15 ground targets and survived without dying once and it didn't count it TWICE!!!! Same goes for the 3rd mission for Do-335 it doesn't count the battles where you get 15 ground target kills!!! Atleast for me, in total i did it 3 times and none of them counted!!! Fix this issue where mission simply refuse to admit to be completed!!!

 

Don't you understand? If you want these "free" planes, you need to pay for these ridiculous missions.

 


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JEPlechasseur #14 Posted 18 March 2018 - 12:07 AM

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Je préfère guerre d'usure à Invasion car il y est plus important de tuer les ennemis que de capturer.

En plus vous n'avez toujours pas programmé les bots pour assister lorsque j'appui sur demande d'appui. Du coup on se sent seul en avion d'assaut

Enfin c'est quoi ce système infinissable de mission pour obtenir l'avion de récompense. En plus il faut avoir tout réussi avec les honneurs. IL faut aussi avoir la mission de sélectionnée. Pourquoi ne pas revoir votre système pour compléter n'importe quelle mission supplémentaire. Comptez pas sur moi pour acheter des certificats.

 



Shark1530 #15 Posted 18 March 2018 - 05:42 AM

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View Post0viking0, on 17 March 2018 - 09:35 PM, said:

 

Sorry bro... but Your stats shows that You are among average or below average players. Skill has nothing to do with your place.

 

My averge experience is 1409 yesterday, as I do not have premium account which give you 1.5 exp instead 1, when you add this 0.5 which you have as premium player I would have 2113.5 avarage exp. So it pretty much means I am among best players. Second even if I do not add this I am still between 1100-1200 and YES It matter with place.

Xeoh #16 Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:39 AM

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Meine Meinung: Invasion ist schlecht:

- Bot Bomber, die gesperrte Sektoren angreifen und sich wasten

- Verteidiger haben immer Vorteil: Spawncamp, sehr kurze Anflugwege

- nicht erfüllbare Missionen

- ob man ein gutes Spiel hat hängt von den Faktoren des Teams ab (Verteidiger/Angreifer) und dem gewählten Flugzeug.

Ich hatte viele Spiele als Lowtier Turnfighter im Tier8, in denen ich die ganze Zeit als Verteidiger auf max Höhe fliegen durfte und die Jets alle noch 500 - 1000m über mir waren: Spielspaß = 0

 

Dann lieber den normalen Conquest und Spaß und Credits und XP an den normalen Sektoren verdienen, als hier gleich mit potentiell 0 und sehr wenig XP/Credits rausgehen. Im Conquest habe ich immer mehr verdient.

 

- Spielmodi müssen abwählbar sein.



Gremlaja #17 Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:37 PM

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The game in version 1.9 was good I played.
The game in version 2.x is bad and even this action does not play because the game is bad in the base and these actions are not meaningful because it is a game for WG white aircrafts. As long as the game is not only for ball players without automatic white aircraft, it does not make sense to play this pasquil.

 

verzion 2.x  = no game = no euro for WG:izmena:



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The missions for Do 355 the mission 3.1 , 4.1 and mssions for XD15C 1.1 , 4.1 CAN NOT BE COMPLETED IN BOTH GAME MODES of operation Westwall!!! They simply don't get counted!!! This issue is around for 4 weeks already!!! I did around 11 battles where i fulfilled all the requierements and mission didn't get counted even once, the game simply doesn't count theese miossions! I don't if i have some kind issues that affect me only, but i can not have those missions completed!! And the mssions were always selected before i went into the battle , i double checked before each battle and checked after battle aswell so to make sure it would not of magicaly switched missions by itself. Please fix this issue!! Theres not much time left for operation Westfall!

EffectStyle #19 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:43 AM

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I have no idea what the Public test made of this mode i cant play this.

 



jakub_czyli_ja #20 Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:49 AM

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View Post_TIGER_BLAST_, on 30 March 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

The missions for Do 355 the mission 3.1 , 4.1 and mssions for XD15C 1.1 , 4.1 CAN NOT BE COMPLETED IN BOTH GAME MODES of operation Westwall!!! They simply don't get counted!!! This issue is around for 4 weeks already!!! I did around 11 battles where i fulfilled all the requierements and mission didn't get counted even once, the game simply doesn't count theese miossions! I don't if i have some kind issues that affect me only, but i can not have those missions completed!! And the mssions were always selected before i went into the battle , i double checked before each battle and checked after battle aswell so to make sure it would not of magicaly switched missions by itself. Please fix this issue!! Theres not much time left for operation Westfall!

There are some players that managed.

At least these except 4.1 for XF15.

 

OTOH it's really unclear difference between enemy planes, air targets and whatever else categories are introduced.


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