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NatteFrost #101 Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:44 AM

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bots arent the real problem, it is the defence bots that are.

they stick on you like glue and has perfect aimlead. unless you are in a turnfighter, you have no chanse.



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View PostNatteFrost, on 12 August 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

 

 

ADA are very simply programmed bots that will perform basic actions. The best tactic when being attacked is to actually leave the sector so that the bots disengage you and you are able to turn around and re-engage them. 

blackmoomba #103 Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:54 PM

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@NatteFrost - step outside the cap circle and re-engage

invader_from_mars #104 Posted 14 August 2018 - 08:17 AM

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Best bot ever, a GAA with zero PP circling above an already captured garrison. Priceless! 

 

 



NatteFrost #105 Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:37 PM

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yea that too is normal.

ground attacker bots either do 1 full circle cuz you are flying to the same cap point as it was programmed to do and thus it has no idea what to do, or that they just fly non stop ciricle 2 squares from the defualt spawns for the entire match. usualy happends if 1 or more players are flying ground attackers.

 

and if they have rockets, they fire thouse of long before they are in actual range, thus does nothing but exploding in empty air.


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GonerNL #106 Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:58 AM

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View PostHorcan, on 15 August 2018 - 05:22 PM, said:

then one runs away while the other turns in your back.

 

I've also noticed this 'flight' behaviour with heavy defense planes ... nice teamwork.

Obiwankenevo #107 Posted 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM

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Hello Guys! A Newbie here! I like this Game very much, but sometimes it is a mystery for me. Yesterday i couldnt win any Game with my A26B. My YAK 1M, Spitfire V und A6M2 the same Problem. Even when my Team had a lot more Points, we lost the Game. All Bots are dying extremly fast when "Sturmfront" comes. So the Enemy won ... I hope my broken english is good enough and you know what i mean. I cant understand that. Most of my Bots doing nothing ... I had 13000 PP and the Bots had 1000-3000 PP. Where is the Balance??? The Day before it was completly different. Winning all the Time ... even when brain-afk! 

GonerNL #108 Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:11 AM

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View PostHiFiRe2142, on 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

Where is the Balance???

 

There is no balance ...

Match-making just tosses together 2 teams of more or less same plane-types/tiers and that's it. One team can have ace human pilots and überbots, the other team noobs and stupid bots. Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not.

 

View Postinvader_from_mars, on 14 August 2018 - 08:17 AM, said:

Best bot ever, a GAA with zero PP circling above an already captured garrison. Priceless!

 

Seen that before, just flying circles over a base. Even when enemy GA attacked he just kept flying his circles ...

 


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eekeeboo #109 Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:19 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 16 August 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

 

 

"One team can have an ace pilot and uber bots, the other team will have noob pilot and uber bots" Bots are balanced, player skill is not. 

 

View PostHiFiRe2142, on 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

 

 

To summarise this can be for numerous reasons, without more detail like a replay I am sorry to say there's not a whole lot I can help you with. The biggest misconception is that the more points you score the more you will win, but it's more about scoring in the right place at the right time. Combine this with making sure you play your plane to its strengths and intended role the better chance you will have at winning. 

NatteFrost #110 Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:59 AM

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View PostHiFiRe2142, on 16 August 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

Hello Guys! A Newbie here! I like this Game very much, but sometimes it is a mystery for me. Yesterday i couldnt win any Game with my A26B. My YAK 1M, Spitfire V und A6M2 the same Problem. Even when my Team had a lot more Points, we lost the Game. All Bots are dying extremly fast when "Sturmfront" comes. So the Enemy won ... I hope my broken english is good enough and you know what i mean. I cant understand that. Most of my Bots doing nothing ... I had 13000 PP and the Bots had 1000-3000 PP. Where is the Balance??? The Day before it was completly different. Winning all the Time ... even when brain-afk! 

 

there is no balance amongst human MM, doubt there even is with the bot cus they are not equal in preformance between the teams.

 

personal points means NOTHING in terms of your team winning or not, only teamplay matters, and since this is an objective capture based game mode, you can have 20kpp and still lose, cuz the oher team is better at capping bases then your team is.

moust common mistake i see are human players in fighters flying to middle cap and just stays there, never expanding out to cap. that is basicly how you loose the games.

but how can there be teamplay whit bots you may ask?, simple, you fly with, and protect the bots from other players.

they may be bad at shooting, but they are very good at capping.

 

squall line events is just a alternative way for the game to end. it still follows the cap point rules, (first side to limit wins) but if 1 side looses all planes, that takes priority over the cap point win.

it is a bit confusing in the beginning for all new players.


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GonerNL #111 Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View Posteekeeboo, on 16 August 2018 - 10:19 AM, said:

Bots are balanced, player skill is not.

 

Then how can enemy bots take 3 bases in 2 minutes while my team's bots are still struggling with a garrison ?? In a 1-vs-1 battle so it can't possible be the only human taking bases all on his own ...



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View PostGonerNL, on 16 August 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

 

Then how can enemy bots take 3 bases in 2 minutes while my team's bots are still struggling with a garrison ?? In a 1-vs-1 battle so it can't possible be the only human taking bases all on his own ...

 

RNG can affect how bots will react, how a player behaves in the match, layout of the map. Lots of things can affect how bots will perform, even the plane they are in. 

 

Bot levels are equal in number per side and equal in level on each side. The only thing that's different is the aircraft the bot may be in, this is because generally the layout of the team changes when you start adding more and more players. 



Horcan #113 Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:15 PM

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Now what rule did i break that you deleted my post? Fine, this really is my last post on the forums  for as long as youre community manager. Maybe someday they add some bots for you to post on forum , so you still have a job. Goodbye everyone.
Retired from this censored BS forum

eekeeboo #114 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:33 AM

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View PostHorcan, on 16 August 2018 - 04:15 PM, said:

 

 

It's being reviewed, if you can't understand when you're breaking a rule, I suggest you look at the rules more and actively read them. I gave you an opportunity to not get sanctioned because of you breaking the rules, which btw discussing breaking the rules is against the rules. 

GonerNL #115 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:35 AM

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View Posteekeeboo, on 16 August 2018 - 02:17 PM, said

Bot levels are equal in number per side and equal in level on each side. The only thing that's different is the aircraft the bot may be in, this is because generally the layout of the team changes when you start adding more and more players. 

 

So yesterday I was in a 1-vs-1 ; thus no 'more and more players' and bot numbers, levels and aircraft should have been balanced ? Still the enemy bots were smart enough to take 2 bases in 2 minutes and the 3rd base they got for free because my bots were killed over the garrison that all 11 of them choose to attack ... funnily enough there were no enemies attacking that garrison, but they still capped it ?!



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View Posteekeeboo, on 17 August 2018 - 08:33 AM, said:

 

It's being reviewed, if you can't understand when you're breaking a rule, I suggest you look at the rules more and actively read them. I gave you an opportunity to not get sanctioned because of you breaking the rules, which btw discussing breaking the rules is against the rules. 

 

You are discussing the rules :-P

 

P.s. can something be done about the annoying Bot vs Bot chat

        And the even more annoying Bot vs Me chat

       I would be very grateful



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View PostGonerNL, on 17 August 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

 

 

The base can be capture by the enemy team if your team keeps dying/crashing over the sector. Just like your team can capture a sector if the enemy team crashes and dies over the sector without your team attacking. 

 

View PostB3RG, on 17 August 2018 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

 

Bot chat is amazing and will never be removed! Hail you bot overlords! 

GonerNL #118 Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:22 AM

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That's silly ... neutral defenders defend their base against team blue and when they win, the red team gets the base.

 

Amazing bot talk like asking the enemy to join a flight or go one-on-one. And asking his team if they're ready to lose again ... yep.



NatteFrost #119 Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:44 AM

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ye remove the bot saying, will you join a flight?, new players will think it is a human.

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View Posteekeeboo, on 17 August 2018 - 10:14 AM, said

 

 

Bot chat is amazing and will never be removed! Hail you bot overlords! 

If it makes sense, 

Like: crush the organics , die meatbags or bow for your new masters humans

Or bot vs bot : what's that terrible smell , (other bot) stinking humans

That would be fun , now it's just confusing







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