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Major69Alvega's Photo Major69Alvega 07 Aug 2018

There are players who pass the game deliberately ramming other planes, and if it is a larger plane, they continue to fly.
I think this type of game should be severely penalized. In case of collision they should fall as well.
This type of play penalizes the best players and is far from the reality that the game intends to have
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Isoruku_Yamamoto's Photo Isoruku_Yamamoto 07 Aug 2018

Well players are one thing, but bots... Thats a thousand times worse
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Tempelhof__'s Photo Tempelhof__ 08 Aug 2018

View PostMajor69Alvega, on 07 August 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

There are players who pass the game deliberately ramming other planes, and if it is a larger plane, they continue to fly.
I think this type of game should be severely penalized. In case of collision they should fall as well.
This type of play penalizes the best players and is far from the reality that the game intends to have

 

It always needs 2 players for a ram, depending what plane you are in you should have always the chance to evade from a head on maneuver...

Its not always the larger plane, but the plane with more structure points that survives.

The "best player" should be aware if he goes into a ram situation or not.

View PostIsoruku_Yamamoto, on 07 August 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

Well players are one thing, but bots... Thats a thousand times worse

Bots are easy to handle: Fighter against Fighter both full structure, the bot always turns away in the very last moment, the same is for Multis, the same is for Heavies. Beware if you are low structure and engage a bot with more structure points, he will try to ram you away.

If you engage a Heavy bot while you are in a Fighter/Multi, he will try to ram you away.

Heavy bots are easy targets: in a Fighter you can simply turn them out, get behind them and wipe them out. In a Multirole always shoot a burst of rockets against the Heavy bot coming at you head-on an boom, he is history.

I didnt see GA bots attacking/ramming (they just rear gunner) and too i didnt experience Bomber bots trying it (rear gunner can be painful)

 

Good hunt further, cheers 0berhessen

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Obgoblin's Photo Obgoblin 11 Aug 2018

It is not correct for a player to deliberately ram his plane against another and survive no matter what type of airplane, both should be destroyed

 

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NatteFrost's Photo NatteFrost 12 Aug 2018

well, reality is that this is ARCADE!. in it you will allso find something called reswpawn. it is a blessing and a curse.

the blessing is that you can play however you want. you wont be punished by it whit anything other then a longer and longer respawn time, and it keeps you in the game longer.

the curse is that knowing you will respawn, who the heck will then bother to flinch in a chicken race??? i will never!

the blessing far outweighs the curse!

 

personly i find ramming higly amusing and do it whenever the situation presents itself regardless if i will win the ram or not.

equal class rams should leade to both planes beeing destryed regardless of hp, but not when it comes to different class rams. heavy planes should allways win the ram agaisnt fighters and multiroles.

 

face it, ramming is part of the game and it wont go away, heck why do you even think we have rewards for it??

just pledge your support for the hardcore game mode and your problems will be solved.


Edited by NatteFrost, 12 August 2018 - 07:37 AM.
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Fallen13's Photo Fallen13 12 Aug 2018

Why  must both are Destroyed`?​

The Plane who have more hp and more Armor can Survive those Attacks.
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GonerNL's Photo GonerNL 13 Aug 2018

View Post0berhessen, on 08 August 2018 - 05:52 AM, said:

It always needs 2 players for a ram, depending what plane you are in you should have always the chance to evade from a head on maneuver...

 

Unfortunately, it's not only head-ons ; I've been rammed by bots and the occasional human from above, behind, you name it.

 

Yes, this is an arcade game, but one where you can enhance and calibrate your plane's survivability in percentages ... why, if ramming is allowed and encouraged ? And part of bot tactics ...

 

 

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eekeeboo's Photo eekeeboo 13 Aug 2018

View PostGonerNL, on 13 August 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

 

 

Bots generally ram because they know they will win and the logic being similar to "They're in a large moving heavy vehicle, you're on a cardboard bicycle" You should move. 
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Tempelhof__'s Photo Tempelhof__ 14 Aug 2018

View PostGonerNL, on 13 August 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

Unfortunately, it's not only head-ons ; I've been rammed by bots and the occasional human from above, behind, you name it.

Yes, this is an arcade game, but one where you can enhance and calibrate your plane's survivability in percentages ... why, if ramming is allowed and encouraged ? And part of bot tactics ...

not only head-ons, you are right, but i would say it is more than 80% head-ons. i have been rarely rammed from behind/above/side... and if so often even by human "team-mates" that hunt the same plane like me, want the kill and fly right through me from behind in their heavy...

From my experience i can say, if i attack a sector that is protected by defence planes, i always try to kill the heavies first. If you´re not attacking alone, you can easily see by the flight maneuver if the Heavy defence plane is heading towards you or another plane. i find it not so hard to evade from those.

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Fallen13's Photo Fallen13 14 Aug 2018

View Post0berhessen, on 14 August 2018 - 05:06 AM, said:

not only head-ons, you are right, but i would say it is more than 80% head-ons. i have been rarely rammed from behind/above/side... and if so often even by human "team-mates" that hunt the same plane like me, want the kill and fly right through me from behind in their heavy...

From my experience i can say, if i attack a sector that is protected by defence planes, i always try to kill the heavies first. If you´re not attacking alone, you can easily see by the flight maneuver if the Heavy defence plane is heading towards you or another plane. i find it not so hard to evade from those.

 


​ I give him right .
The Human Teammates are dont looking to much and ram the Teammates :-(
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caldy's Photo caldy 20 Aug 2018

as real world when two planes ram all two are destroyed indipendently from their hp points, that's all
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johncarps's Photo johncarps 20 Aug 2018

View Postcaldy, on 20 August 2018 - 07:39 PM, said:

as real world when two planes ram all two are destroyed indipendently from their hp points, that's all

 

yes and no

 

no because wowp v2.0 is a pure arcade game far away from reality (when you finished your bombs you finished that' all and others)

and no because if urss use taran attack with their i16, it's not for broke 2 planes

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GonerNL's Photo GonerNL 21 Aug 2018

My problem is that ramming (even the Taran) was a last ditch effort to try and destroy an enemy, not a normal tactic as it is in Wowp, even being an arcade game and not a combat sim.

Also it always inflicted damage on the ramming plane, in Wowp they just fly on without visible damage.

 

A ramming attack was not considered suicidal in the same manner as kamikaze attacks—the ramming pilot stood a chance of surviving, though it was very risky. Sometimes the ramming aircraft itself could survive to make a controlled landing, though most were lost due to combat damage or the pilot bailing out.

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johncarps's Photo johncarps 21 Aug 2018

View PostGonerNL, on 21 August 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

A ramming attack was not considered suicidal in the same manner as kamikaze attacks—the ramming pilot stood a chance of surviving, though it was very risky. Sometimes the ramming aircraft itself could survive to make a controlled landing, though most were lost due to combat damage or the pilot bailing out.

 

yes but wowp have the respawn tool so it's a tactic like crash to start with a new plane

 

i remember before 1.3 i think when to play have contact they die together : snif snif team on forum -> modification of the game, one plane survive

on last wowp you die to quick : snif snif on forum -> respawn

the ramings and the voluntary crashes are just adaptations of the players to the rules 2.0

 

 


Edited by johncarps, 21 August 2018 - 03:06 PM.
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