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Timewarp76 #1 Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:54 AM

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Hi All,

Finally I had a chance to get back into the game and just in time to grab some matches in the new game mode.

 

As with any new mode there is the proverbial learning curve that goes with it. So I noticed that both teams had their fair share of pilots that were more focused on that individual kill than that of actually winning the game. I'm sure game play will change as the days go on. Still though all in all, I'm enjoying this mode, and much better than that of event modes in the past. It's fresh, something new, fast paced and offers the possibility to really use my heavy fighter the way I like to use it. I had the opportunity to play in both attacking and defending teams in the new Escort mode and have to say, I really like it so far. Yes it is a bit overwhelming at first and the sheer number of planes is a lot to take in but after a few games you get use to the pace of the game and what to do and or not do. I've been reading this morning about crashes and such, fortunately during my session last night I didn't run into any crashes or major glitches so nothing to report there. My one concern is that it seems very difficult to get any chevrons in this mode, perhaps in the days to come there will be a bit more explanation about what is needed to rank up.

I'm still a small fish in a big pond when it comes to this game mode and no expert by far. However I quickly learned that in attack mode, fighters and heavies really need to protect their bombers. More often than not if our bomber flight was lost it was because team members we're chasing planes that were not even in the main engagement area. As the title implies the mode really is about escorting your bomber group, keep them alive and you have a great chance at winning the game. As you can imagine of course there is the necessity of the GAA's to help out as well as many of you have found out the AA is very harsh now on planes, so don't fly directly over a cap area or more than likely you won't make it out alive. I was retreating during a sortie and I learned the hard way, lets just say my pancake didn't last very long flying over the cap area.

In defend mode I found out that balancing what you are engaging is very important. Yes you want to take out the bombers and do it as quickly as possible but to do so and not worry about the enemy team support aircraft will make that sortie a short lived one. A balance is needed regarding target acquisition, yes throw some rounds into a bomber but if you see a support aircraft in your line of sight where you can shoot and keep your speed up then unload on them and keep going. Complete another pass and do the same, take a bomber out and fly past and focus on a support aircraft or two, rinse and repeat. Our team was very successful when they took this type of approach when dealing with attacking flights. On the other hand when my team only focused on bombers, their support aircraft would eat us alive. Since the bombers have a nice health pool those 15 or so seconds where you are focusing, you could be getting lined up in a heavy fighters cross hairs, and unlike the bombers, your health pool isn't as strong, so you more than likely you won't last long by flying in a strait line while nibbling away at the bomber bar. All to often, I was able to get an easy kill just by waiting for the enemy to forget about me and then I would strike back with a vengeance.

Something else I was reminded about last night. Don't get caught up in the salty in game chatter. I was in a match last night where there were a few players calling us looser's before the game was even half over. They posted comments like "gg kiddies" and "learn to fly red" etc. and a few more obscenities that I'll refrain from posting here. Fortunately my team didn't respond to the banter and focused on game play. We did not start out the strongest..... but... in my eyes karma was a great equalizer in this particular game because we tasted Victory in the end!!!.  When the summary page displayed the results I was the last plane standing and as you can imagine after the match was over I just had to throw a parting shot at the salty fly boys. So I sent them a simple message with a "Smiley Face" nothing more, nothing less. In return I got the message "errrrr :-("  back. It just goes to show you, if you put your efforts into your game-play and your team and not worry about those salty pilots across from you, then your mind will stay focused and you to may pull out that epic victory.

Fly High, Fly Fast hope to see you in the Sky.

T.

 


Edited by Timewarp76, 05 October 2018 - 07:08 AM.

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jabbasDaD #2 Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:09 AM

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I agree with your First view and like the New Mode Too. Only played heavies so far. It needs some time and practise but It might be fun then. This Would be a good Mode for Team battles. You need coordination and some Talk to divide interception Groups the right way. For the First rough eye the fortifications are Too weak.  Its nearly impossible To keep Them in duty for more than seconds because of the great impact of 4-5 GA and enemy bombers. So they have no results against the Bomber Group Not ignoring the fact,  that the AA is quite strong. 

GoldKnight #3 Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:34 AM

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i have no clue what u both are playing, this mode is absolutely unbalanced for attacking team where u need barely any effort to win the game.

Defense can do something only during night with no1 around, and even with that u need 10 times effort and focus to bring home a victory...

 

This mode has to be absolutely revised and fixed, like this is just an insane wr farm for attacking team and the amount of GA players is also stupid, everyone select GA or Bombers to go in attack 100%...

 


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jabbasDaD #4 Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:45 AM

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I played a couple of games both sides an it is truly harder as defender but possible to win. An if you Do so   you get enourmous points, i saw one with over 50k Personal points. As i mentioned .the fortifications should be reworked to live longer against swarms of GA. And yes,  there are really Lot of GA in attacking Team. My point as defender is: more GA means less interceptors. So bombers are less protected and its a good Chance to win even if defending Team loses fortifications fast. For my opinion its Not totally unbalanced only some tuning is needed. 

Edited by jabbasDaD, 05 October 2018 - 07:47 AM.


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Maybe u did play low level, on higher lvl the losses are 10 times the victories in def

Also, check the amount of humans in def and attack in that games. Most of the time def wins is cos attack has like 6/7 GAs/Bombers, mostly humans, and nothing to fight on the sky.

Other barely no humans in attack and more in def

 

The fact in def u do 40/50k points show once more that the game mode is absolutely unbalanced :P


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Played 2 games on it, one Tier V attacking and one Tier 9 defending. It's ok if a bit 'messy' when you first enter battle as in it's not particularly obvious what on earth is going on in this mode although I may have missed any guides/tutorials in game, can build up a tonne of PP which on premium planes will no doubt draw huge credit rewards on the higher tiers. Two games was enough though, didn't really drag me into a longer game session. The mode has potential however, especially when people learn how to play both sides properly.



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The mode as is, is extremely badly implemented (typical of WG the last 1 year).

It needs huge optimization and balance to evolve in something enjoyable.

I played on attackers (the easy side as i read) and found the games awfully long and boring especially at low tiers, even is they were 90% wins.

I was planning to play Heavies and defense, but due to server restart and lost progress, I'll better stay away and preserve my sanity.



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View Posthoughtonbee, on 05 October 2018 - 09:15 AM, said:

Played 2 games on it, one Tier V attacking and one Tier 9 defending. It's ok if a bit 'messy' when you first enter battle as in it's not particularly obvious what on earth is going on in this mode although I may have missed any guides/tutorials in game, can build up a tonne of PP which on premium planes will no doubt draw huge credit rewards on the higher tiers. Two games was enough though, didn't really drag me into a longer game session. The mode has potential however, especially when people learn how to play both sides properly.

 

i did little more than 2 games, so i can say easily it is broken for 1 side, unless those conditions written above are coming into consideration, which are like 1/10 games... not possible like this

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I have played only bombers so far, and right now it is ridiculous how easily you win when you play a bomber properly- even with 5+ humans on the enemy team. 
Basically you just snipe out all high altitude AA in the first run, then you return for capture points- just don't try to play for yourself at all. 

Got me 5 wins in a row, while i was playing for two AA mount destroy missions lol



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I started in high tier and it was very messy because I had no clue what is going on (I don't think there are any useful guides) and with these really good bots you have to fight for your own survival. Then I switched to mid tier and as soon as I realized not to waste time with useless fights it became fun, even or maybe especially on the defending side. 

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I kinda like it too. Target rich environment in both roles.
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After playing more games i started to win some defenses also, but that i can say its really dependand how many people that have a clue are in your team and how many are in the enemy team. One guy alone cant win battles because there are two important things in this mode ( AA guns being dead/alive, and bombers being dead/alive ) and them being scattered across map, you simply cant be everywhere. You miss to engage a bomber pack, they can sometimes one shot your objective, losing games that seemed won after couple minutes. So teamplay is a must, its a mode that would probably be fit for a clan vs clan activities , with proper testing and balancing when everyone do what they have to do. But when the game is as it is, its just unpredictable and frustrating mode.

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There are several issues:

If you defend, you need a lot of effort to win... because the waves are too quick in succession, you need to be everywhere. And there are a lot of planes that are useless, like light fighters with .50cal, useless to take down bombers.

If you attack, it's too easy to win, but if you're a GAA and are facing humans with heavy hitters, you just can't protect the bombers, removing the AA isn't enough.



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i used the bomber or GAA to protect the waves and it worked like a charm :P

 



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Yeah I love it as well, especially when after you have been shot down in your Bomber Escort Fighter, you press Battle to respawn, and you are sent back to the hanger while your plane goes into battle on auto pilot without you, yeah jusy love trying to win prizes this way, perhaps if they concentrated giving us a bug free campaign, rather trying to sell us everything and their dog, it might be even better to play. 

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hi just played 6 games in a row 6 times on defence 6 loss we have planes like the ll-40 3 or 4 per game just taking out ground targets in one go no chance to stop them

this means no aa help to stop bombers so game over in one or 2 waves 6 times now in a row this is not working 

if you are going to mess up the game like this then let us opt out of these missions 

it is killing the game for me one wave of Ll-40 say 3 of them or me-1066 and the game is over



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View PostHorcan, on 05 October 2018 - 09:45 AM, said:

After playing more games i started to win some defenses also, but that i can say its really dependand how many people that have a clue are in your team

 

Agreed.

I played a bit yesterday evening and actually got some wins on defense. Teams were at least 50% human ... this morning I lost almost all defense battles, but most of the time had only 2 or 3 humans on the team. Defending with bots is hopeless ...



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pls don't ever put this mode back on

jabbasDaD #19 Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:31 PM

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Play mid Tier. As defense Team its wonderful . I play me 410 AT its great. Its a heavies Mode. I win in defense and I am Not an ACE. And Teams are better than yesterday. In High Tier is the Problem, that ga Planes are damned fast and germans can climb High also. So attacker have an advantage. 

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I like it, but the Defender side needs a bit rework.  As attacker you can win as medicore player, for defender it is difficult to Win as Ace





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