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zumbledum #1 Posted 15 October 2018 - 10:09 AM

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t4 game one bomber doing the normal altitude abuse had 6 bots and all the defence craft chasing him as he took the base in 2 passes, not one of them got a shot on him none of them could reach him but they all just trailed along as we tried to play th game half a team down. maybe have htem give up on stuff they cant reach?

 

on a related note why is it still poissible for a bomber to just fly over everything? ok there are like 2 lines of heavies that can go high enough and actually catch them , but in most games they arent there and bombers are completely uncounterable. they really should loose more accuracy for being 4km up.



eekeeboo #2 Posted 15 October 2018 - 10:12 AM

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Bombers do generally have poor accuracy at high altitude, if they're also high enough to be out of range of AAA they will be extremely slow and take longer to secure sectors. 

 

The bots aren't the smartest cookies in the jar, especially at lower tiers. This is the inherent limitation of bots. 



GonerNL #3 Posted 15 October 2018 - 02:09 PM

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View Postzumbledum, on 15 October 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

on a related note why is it still poissible for a bomber to just fly over everything? 

 

Yep, very frustrating.

You can not reach them but they are able to kill your base from the stratosphere (despite their "poor accuracy"). You can only hope that you can kill some red planes in the sector to keep base health.

 



klbergmen #4 Posted 15 October 2018 - 02:37 PM

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High flying bombers are very ineffective in capping. I tried this a lot for the "400cap points in one sortie" and barely capped anything. If there is only one of them you can just ignore it.

Not every bomber is able to fly above the flak. The ones that cannot have a problem after the latest change to flak because they cannot jiggle while doing a bombing run.

So I don't think high flying bombers are a problem. I don't know about bots following them, I think they give up after some time ?



Grandal_Nikon #5 Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:08 PM

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Today, two bombers from the enemy team won the sector three times. Unfortunately, they flew in the stratosphere and bombed it brilliantly.
My pilot in Emil lost consciousness, so he just gave up the fight with the "impossible" ...
This is sometimes really pathetic.

 Knowing that I can no longer reverse the fate of the battle, I focused on precipitating this "space shuttle." I had fun doing it myself ...

sruuuututuuu ... <stall> srututuuuuu ... <stall> srutuuututuu ... <stall> anyway until the end of the battle.:popcorn:


Edited by Grandal_Nikon, 16 October 2018 - 02:18 PM.

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eekeeboo #6 Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:30 PM

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It is still possible to flip the sectors faster than they can cap, by going to more prominent objectives than playing catch-up to the bombers. 

Grandal_Nikon #7 Posted 16 October 2018 - 02:40 PM

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Eekee ... 109E I will not get two factories alone if there are no other planes above them, only two "space shuttle".
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eekeeboo #8 Posted 16 October 2018 - 03:58 PM

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There were more sectors than the 2 factors I would assume? Combine with the climb of the 109E that could quite capably catch most bombers with consistent and steady climbing, not all in one go. 

 

You can then bait and drag an enemy onto the sector, repeat. 

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by eekeeboo, 16 October 2018 - 04:28 PM.


Grandal_Nikon #9 Posted 16 October 2018 - 06:08 PM

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Yes, I know that in this battle I probably made a mistake leaving the defense of the two sectors to other players and bots. I did not pay attention to the fact that something escapes. The truth, however, is that calmly and successively I can climb to bombers, but at certain times there is no time for peace. You have to make some decisions very quickly and here it comes to the fact that it is impossible to get bombers on the ceiling 300 - 400m higher than a balanced flight for 99% of fighters at a given level of gameplay.

This is also about the behavior of the plane and how much boost was there. Bombers do not stand still and see that someone is trying to catch them... that someone light stuck in 3500-3600m. :medal:

< I'm sorry for my bad English ;) >


Edited by Grandal_Nikon, 16 October 2018 - 06:20 PM.

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eekeeboo #10 Posted 17 October 2018 - 08:26 AM

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View PostGrandal_Nikon, on 16 October 2018 - 06:08 PM, said:

 

 

No problems, I attached the screenshots of the height i climbed to with the 109E using 3 boosts and getting head of the bomber by going to a sector it's going to head to. 

 

Though I had no screenshots I was also able to climb, catch and take out a Do 17 bomber that was further in front and boosting. I understand the quick decisions, but it is possible to climb, catch, engage and destroy these bombers. They can be pesky but in no way invincible climbing to the heights they go to. While they're evading you, they're also not bombing as accurately as they could be. 

 

Hopefully with time and practice you'll be able to make those decisions quickly that lead to victory! 



GonerNL #11 Posted 17 October 2018 - 08:45 AM

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Mmm, maybe I should buy the 109E again ... I ditched it when I got the premium 109E-3, but the tech tree version had an extra 20mm !!

(any word on the special pilot for 109E-3, should come this month ?)

 



eekeeboo #12 Posted 17 October 2018 - 09:02 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 17 October 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

Mmm, maybe I should buy the 109E again ... I ditched it when I got the premium 109E-3, but the tech tree version had an extra 20mm !!

(any word on the special pilot for 109E-3, should come this month ?)

 

 

No updated info yet unfortunately. 

GonerNL #13 Posted 18 October 2018 - 07:37 AM

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I really hope they make their appearance soon ... got some planes waiting for 'm  ;-)

 



Grandal_Nikon #14 Posted 18 October 2018 - 08:46 AM

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I would like to have Bf 109 E-3 packed in my hangar. Will there be any occasion to appear to win or buy?
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eekeeboo #15 Posted 18 October 2018 - 12:28 PM

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There was a plan in the past, but there was an issue with the aircraft that needed to be addressed first! 

GonerNL #16 Posted 19 October 2018 - 09:29 AM

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This is only the pilots, right ??

Not the special emblems, nose-art that was in the original Dunkirk package ?

 

https://worldofwarpl...nkirk-warbirds/

 

EDIT: they're here. Thanks.

https://eu.wargaming...specials/10422/


Edited by GonerNL, 22 October 2018 - 10:11 AM.





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