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GonerNL #1 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:39 PM

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My Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is slowly giving up the ghost (as if the joystick bug wasn't bad enough), so have to get me a new one.

 

Anybody here using other joysticks, like Trust (Predator) or ThrustMaster (Hotas) ?? I might have been a bit rough on the Extreme, already demolished one earlier, so looking for something that can handle my heavy-handed flying ...



RoyalFlyingCorps #2 Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:48 PM

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If you know the player Goat_Messiah he will be able to provide some good advice.  He's a streamer and he's gone through a good number of different makes of joysticks.

GonerNL #3 Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:31 PM

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I've seen him on-line a couple of times ... just watched his Twitch channel (unpacking a defunct Thrustmaster). Didn't know he's Dutch ... 

FlyingDutchman69 #4 Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:46 PM

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hes using a 3d extreme at the moment

 



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View PostGonerNL, on 02 January 2019 - 12:39 PM, said:

My Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is slowly giving up the ghost (as if the joystick bug wasn't bad enough), so have to get me a new one.

 

Anybody here using other joysticks, like Trust (Predator) or ThrustMaster (Hotas) ?? I might have been a bit rough on the Extreme, already demolished one earlier, so looking for something that can handle my heavy-handed flying ...

 

Dear Mate I have the same problem that you mention, I have killed up to know 4 or 5 Logitech extreme3d, the duration of every one was about 6 months, the more usual failure was the yaw turning, use to get jammed and the problem has not solution. I also killed a Mad Catz V.I tto weak to me less that a wee, and now I have been using Thrustmaster T1600M, is the second one the first get trouble on the trigger, but late more that the logitech, about one year and a half.

 

This is my experience


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This one comes with a twist. Heavy duty.

 

http://forum.vkb-sim...opic.php?t=3354


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KurtVonSteiger #7 Posted 02 January 2019 - 04:42 PM

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I am on my second Saitek Pacific AV8R and find them very good - I am also a very heavy handed flyer so any stick gets a right hammering.... personally I found the Thrust master to be a bit too cheap and cheerful (one of the bits failed very quickly and the internal quality was poor) 


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dreambill #8 Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:55 PM

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I'm on my 5th 3D Logitech (after 2 AV8R). Nothing in price area of 40-60 Euros lasts more than an (average) 1 year.

I stick with 3D though, cause is the only one having 3 years guarantee in my country, and yes, all 4 of them after the first one, are free replacements for it, under guarantee.



Koohulin #9 Posted 02 January 2019 - 07:02 PM

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Old time joystick user here, and have used just about them all.

 

The King is the microsoft Force Feedback 2, although no longer made there are always some available on Ebay.

The never drift, as it uses magnets not springs so always accurate. They last for years until trigger goes, that's always the fault.

I've had 4 from ebay then discovered how to fix the trigger, if I'd known before I'd still have the first one lol.



IBplayer #10 Posted 02 January 2019 - 09:53 PM

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I went through loads of plastic joysticks before I finally bought the thrust master hotas warthog joystick and throttle combo.  Cost a lot initially but cheaper in the long term as had them a few years now with no issues.  Also went through a number of plastic rudder pedals as well until I went for the MFG crosswind they are brilliant and again have stood the test of time. If you want robust kit these are what I would recommend but I admit they are pricey but worth it :)

 



GonerNL #11 Posted 03 January 2019 - 01:36 PM

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Wow, that Warthog looks nice !! Bit expensive tho ... can you actually screw the stick + rudder onto your table/desk-top ??

 

Thnx for all advice. Will take Extreme again and when/if I demolish it again, will try one of the more robust ones ;-)

 

Searched around a bit and the weak point of the Extreme seems to be the 'potentiometers' ... the 'pots' in the X and Y axis tend to get dirty or worn out.


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johncarps #12 Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:50 PM

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i think you have the same problem of 3d users, the sensor (in plastic) lost their position after time

their was a tuto on net to change them by hall sensor 

 

i know a player with hotas, a great joystick but he says the the spring is a bit fragile

 

if you need i can try to find the tuto for 3d sensor change


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GonerNL #13 Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:39 AM

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Yeah, I also found some DIY videos for cleaning, replacing or rewiring these pots. But I'm not handy/brave enough for that kind of operation ...

Edited by GonerNL, 04 January 2019 - 08:39 AM.


johncarps #14 Posted 04 January 2019 - 09:46 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 04 January 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

Yeah, I also found some DIY videos for cleaning, replacing or rewiring these pots. But I'm not handy/brave enough for that kind of operation ...

 

i made this (sometimes i don"t make toxicpost ^^^^^^^^)

http://forum.worldof...-xtrem-3-d-pro/

 

if you need help to do that no pbm, i think it's very easy

 

i don't find the hall sensor change post sorry

 

 


Edited by johncarps, 04 January 2019 - 12:09 PM.

qu'elle est la limite pour déclarer l'échec ?




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