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[thyladras]

Hello, i'm playing only with computer ennemies and allies...    the game is empty ?

 

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[Piq_Mastika]

thyladras, on 06 January 2019 - 11:16 PM, said:

Hello, i'm playing only with computer ennemies and allies...    the game is empty ?

 

ty

 

It depends on the tier you play. For example if you are very new player, you play on a separated queue in the low tiers and you are matched only with new players (if available) and bots. After few tiers you will be placed in the normal queue. The server is not empty, just low populated, compared to WOT.

[dreambill]

Is really separate queue for new players? Wasn't aware of it.

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

Like all experienced players (I suppose I am one, more or less, now) who harvest those important tokens, I’m forced to play at tier 4.  I have to say I don’t notice any queue delays going into battles, so I’m doubtful about Piq_Mastika’s comment. Is there any documentation supporting this “queue separation” or could _Neverm1nd_ comment, please?

[johncarps]

the noob protecct was try on the other wowp game but it was avoid cause too much time to come in battle (and after the bots comes in the game)

Edited by johncarps, 07 January 2019 - 04:12 PM.

[zen_monk_]

A bit of WoWP history:

 

There was a noob protect system here. It was introduced in 1.2-1.3 based on "if you have more than ~500, ~1K (please old guys, help with the correct number) games, you can not play Tiers I and II". You could pick your Tier I or II but you waited and waited and waited... until you give up.

 

And if you were a player with that certain number of battles (again, was it 500 or 1000 or what?) there was a ridiculous glitch for you in there: you could not start a new  yet-not-explored nation simply by picking Tier I and progressing. You had to free-XP your way to Tier III from where you were eligible for playing.

 

IDK how long it lasted, I left the game at 1.6, nor do I know if it exists now.

[m249jim]

zen_monk_, on 07 January 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

A bit of WoWP history:

 

There was a noob protect system here. It was introduced in 1.2-1.3 based on "if you have more than ~500, ~1K (please old guys, help with the correct number) games, you can not play Tiers I and II". You could pick your Tier I or II but you waited and waited and waited... until you give up.

 

Nice idea, but incredibly stupid at the same time, as WG sells premium aircraft (and tanks and ships in WoT and WoWS) at tier 2, also gives tier 2 tanks as freebies every Xmas in WoT, although most freebie/mission aircaft in WoWP seem to be tiers 3-6.

 

Even more stupid now to try and implement something like that with the need to play low tier for both daily missions, and specialisting (is that a word?) aircraft.

 

What would be nice would be a pure PvE mode like WoWS has, with lower credit making abilities,  but have a feeling at low tiers (1&2) it would often be hard to get enough players to populate more than a 3 vs 3  battle.

[zen_monk_]

m249jim, on 07 January 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

 

What would be nice would be a pure PvE mode like WoWS has, with lower credit making abilities,  but have a feeling at low tiers (1&2) it would often be hard to get enough players to populate more than a 3 vs 3  battle.

 

AMEN!!!!

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

m249jim, on 07 January 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

 

Nice idea, but incredibly stupid at the same time, as WG sells premium aircraft (and tanks and ships in WoT and WoWS) at tier 2, also gives tier 2 tanks as freebies every Xmas in WoT, although most freebie/mission aircaft in WoWP seem to be tiers 3-6.

 

Even more stupid now to try and implement something like that with the need to play low tier for both daily missions, and specialisting (is that a word?) aircraft.

 

What would be nice would be a pure PvE mode like WoWS has, with lower credit making abilities,  but have a feeling at low tiers (1&2) it would often be hard to get enough players to populate more than a 3 vs 3  battle.

 

I'm sorry but at this point i think WoWP cant exactly afford to cut down credit & XP income on coop-type battles. They can introduce such battles, but only at normal economics rates in the current state of the game. 

[Piq_Mastika]

RoyalFlyingCorps, on 07 January 2019 - 05:32 PM, said:

Like all experienced players (I suppose I am one, more or less, now) who harvest those important tokens, I’m forced to play at tier 4.  I have to say I don’t notice any queue delays going into battles, so I’m doubtful about Piq_Mastika’s comment. Is there any documentation supporting this “queue separation” or could _Neverm1nd_ comment, please?

 

I don't mean experienced people are banned from the queue. I mean The very new players play their first games only vs new players and bots (maybe 50-100 games or until they reach t4). If they go back at t3 they will face ones like you.
 

I play this game since late August 2018 (not much long ago), my first games were like easy mode with no one exactly knowing what to do. After t4 it was complete smashing with specialist planes and very intense games. After this moment when I play lower than t4 there is at least one specialist or experienced player per team.

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

Well, it’s interesting and I’d appreciate a comment from _Neverm1nd_.  I’m not aware of any system for protecting new players, but if there is one it’s a good idea.

[GonerNL]

Piq_Mastika, on 08 January 2019 - 08:56 AM, said:

The very new players play their first games only vs new players and bots (maybe 50-100 games or until they reach t4). 

 

I never experienced that ...  I started playing Sept. 2017 and middle of last year I created a new account to explore some other lines in the tech-tree, but there were always experienced players in the lower tiers, not only new ones.

Also there's nothing about that in the Matchmaker blog they recently published.

 

[FooFaFie]

I'm relatieve new or at least started a new profile with my WOWs account. And at the beginning of the Christmas event I had around 20 battles.

 

I know how to spot bots at te beginning and I have to say I never had less than 6 players on my team. Most of the time I had 8 players on my team.

 

But It wouldn't surprise me that in the beginning you see only bots. Even in WOWs you can have battles that are partially filled with bots if you start. 

Edited by FooFaFie, 08 January 2019 - 05:34 PM.

[Gladius__invader]

Hello all I start 3 or 4 days ago to Play and i can say you that if there a Protection for new Players it start very late as i see on the other side many Times Human player with 1500-2000 Battles in Tier 1-2.So not Really a Protection for New Players

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

Any human player with 1500-2000 battles at tiers 1 and 2 ought to be ashamed of themselves, but I too would like to know if new players are protected.  I have to say I don't think they are, but I hope _Neverm1nd_ will tell us soon.

[klbergmen]

That's easy to test - just create a new accound and try.

In WoT there was such a system until 1000battles or so - I don't know if it still exist (I guess so)

[GonerNL]

I really doubt if we need an 'official' protection scheme ; I never felt the need to be protected when I started (Sep 2017).

It's a learning process. You also learn by being shot down ... and seeing what the experienced players do, tactics, maneuvers etc

 

Just don't turn it into seal-clubbing. And indeed, people who fly only I-15 in thousands of battles just for the stats are pathetic.

I concentrate on the bots and bases and leave noobs alone (unless they're a threat).

But I've got a lot of nice little planes that I really want to fly ! And missions to do for tokens.

 

 

[_Neverm1nd_]

RoyalFlyingCorps, on 09 January 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:

Any human player with 1500-2000 battles at tiers 1 and 2 ought to be ashamed of themselves, but I too would like to know if new players are protected.  I have to say I don't think they are, but I hope _Neverm1nd_ will tell us soon.

 

Hi, there is no separate queue for newcomers. Number of real players in teams depends on tiers and time. Back to thyladras question - such situations could happen if the waiting time for creating a battle  exceeded 100 seconds then the server creates  for you PVE arena. 

[Gladius__invader]

_Neverm1nd_, on 09 January 2019 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

Hi, there is no separate queue for newcomers. Number of real players in teams depends on tiers and time. Back to thyladras question - such situations could happen if the waiting time for creating a battle  exceeded 100 seconds then the server creates  for you PVE arena. 

 

Sorry but that is stupid i see today even some Player with more then 6000 Battles in Tier 1 what the gamemaker think i can do against such Players.Its nice that the Number of real Player is limited and the rest are Bots but the real Player hunt me not the Bots.When i see some of that good Players ingame im most of the Time waiting i can Start to Fly again as im near the entire Fight Death.

[klbergmen]

Gladius__invader, on 09 January 2019 - 04:07 PM, said:

 

Sorry but that is stupid i see today even some Player with more then 6000 Battles in Tier 1 what the gamemaker think i can do against such Players.Its nice that the Number of real Player is limited and the rest are Bots but the real Player hunt me not the Bots.When i see some of that good Players ingame im most of the Time waiting i can Start to Fly again as im near the entire Fight Death.

 

But that's exactly what _Neverm1nd_  said - there is no noob protection.

Edited by klbergmen, 09 January 2019 - 04:00 PM.