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GonerNL #1 Posted 14 March 2019 - 11:33 PM

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... would be a better name for this event.

 

Thought it would be a good opportunity to grind my Me 329. After a whole string of nothing but defeats in this plane and some other tier GA, I gave up. I've had bad nights in GA but this was a nightmare.

Dropping a bomb on AA and looking back in rearview I saw an explosion and everything just still stood there ... demolition expert ftw !! Shooting up AA with guns take aaaages and all that time you're a sitting duck for AA and fighters.

 

Eventually I re-purchased the I-220 with a 90% pilot and won first battle with spot #1, winged legend, pilot to 100% etc ... second battle same.

Also noticed no human bombers and GA on enemy team ; everybody gave up ...



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Yep. Tottaly broken gamemode, plus lag spikes and frequent disconnects. Off to Frontline with me... 

Ykazumi #3 Posted 15 March 2019 - 12:26 AM

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hi,I still find potentials in Me329. and am still keeing on grinding it. Before,I have been naive to believe that merely dropping a bomb on an AA target would destroy it, nix. I gradually came to know that one should destroy the AA gun first, then keep shooting at other blocks of it, and then dropping the bomb will destroy a single AA unit.My humble record was 20 for one battle.Other players must have definitely destroyed more than mine.  But "strongholds" after the updates are totally different, are much harder and hopeless to destroy them unless high alt.bomber does this increasingly high demanding job.. An attacker cannot cope with 10x AA gun units inside a fortress. Have to abandon the continued bombing in order to save the attacker from AA fire,sadly.

Some frail players may get nervous breakown , for an attacker will have to face 3 obstables at the same time;fierce enemy bot fighters,human fighter(s) eager to kill GAAs,and much more and taller ground obstables such as antenna rods,poles, and other metals jotting up in the air. Had an impression WG had given GAAs more hardships. But, gun/airframe/engine calibrations are a nice thing to enjoy. But I dont want to think why GAAs are given such difficulties as this--uha.

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atlasapl #4 Posted 15 March 2019 - 02:24 AM

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Four games, five disconnects from the server.  :angry:  Apart from the raw outcome (Victory/Defeat), I have no idea of the details of the results.



bombuhr #5 Posted 15 March 2019 - 06:57 AM

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I managed to win one game of an entire evening of trying bombers.

My one win was on Tier IV.

 

I found the B17G to be completely useless. I later ended up flying with the bomber waves and just using it's secondary guns to try and delay the inevitable.

A26 - I managed to actually do stuff. But never a win.

RB17 - I never did do much bombing, just got farmed.

Tier V German bomber (forgot the name). Similary to the A26 but died more often and less likely to flip a stronghold.

 

The most annoying thing is when you can't go for the closest objective and you sit there and try and reach the other one, a heavy in a bot just dashes all the way from across the map and puts you in the dirt right before you were able to drop the bombs. That happened every single game when ever I tried for a different stronghold.

 

Feels like a wasted evening I'm afraid.

Trying to do the vengance missions in a bomber seems impossible as the first part actually requires you to win 5 games.

It can't be done. (in a reasonable amount of games played.)


Edited by bombuhr, 15 March 2019 - 06:58 AM.


arcticstorm123 #6 Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:16 AM

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The whole problem is being assigned to attackers, the attacking team invariably loses, all of the tasks for the event are dependent on "winning the game", in bombers and GA's this is unlikely for the reasons others have stated and even in fighters you are liable to be assigned to the attacking team, I just need 2 victories to complete the first task and I was assigned to the attacking team 3-4 times in a row last night and therefore lost chances to advance the task despite getting the points.

 

Something I've noticed is that as the defenders have sites supplying resources, over the long game the attackers run out of respawns, the only games where the attackers get a chance is where they destroy the targets quickly.

 

In Westwall you had 2 limited planes to grind for, in this event you just have some bombers which will eventually be grindable in the tree anyway, therefore not going to bust a gut on this event, will just play normally, the extra XP does mean you can grind and upgrade aircraft quicker therefore I'll just do that. 


Edited by arcticstorm123, 15 March 2019 - 08:22 AM.


omglaserspewpew #7 Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:29 AM

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Eventhough I'm used to all the fails of Persha Studia, words simply elude me this time. I'd better not say much, or it's gonna be a lot of swearing.

 

Devs spent zero, ZERO time testing this. ZERO. But then, Priolia will again cry how unfair we are and how nothing more can be done, lol.



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Bomber Escort again proved to be great fun. You can:

 

a) Moan and stomp your feet at the unbalanced/untested event, or

 

2) Enjoy the most dakka-dakka there is, and effortlessly and quickly grind out all the troublesome planes you have, racking up massive XP and silver while shooting your heart out with a smile on your face.

 

Take your pick.


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svadilfari #9 Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:45 AM

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playing bomber/gaa is autoloss. such a dumb game mode i can´t believe this is still live

Discontinued #10 Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:58 AM

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Surprisingly enough, i had a mini win streak in the Ki-84 rier 7 Jap fighter, 

 

I was expecting nothing but defeats and as such didn't feel too committed to playing very well...even with frequent disconnects i managed to net around 20k exp in 3 battles.

 

The BV 203 was an absolute beast in this and even in a crappy game i could easily make 300k per battle and 11k exp

 

 

Mrs Disco interrupted my game play, so I only got a handful of games in, kinda glad it counts aircraft destroyed as I'm close to specializing the Spit 1a 

 

The event is, imho quite enjoyable, but far to many disconnects for my liking.

 

Why oh why cant they fix these bugs?


Edited by Discontinued, 15 March 2019 - 10:07 AM.


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View Postzen_monk_, on 15 March 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

Bomber Escort again proved to be great fun.

  Yes , it can be. Last time it was broken the other way, the defending side was autolose. But they listened and fixed it on the second round, it became balanced. I just don´t understand why they broke it again :) . Let's just hope they fix it . Again. What kills it are the disconnects and lag spikes. Maybe it's not even the developers fault, we will see.

 



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The attacking side can win, I had quite a few wins as attacker, but unfortunately not due to the bombers/groudn attack planes input. To win the attackers need to win the attrition game - bombers and ILs etc are simply farmed mercilessly both by bots and players. I don't think I'll try to do the missions for those two types of planes, seeing what's happening in my games - strongholds are flipped by aerial kills over them, not through bombing/rocketing, and I pity the players trying (and try not to attack them, if I remember)

GonerNL #13 Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:59 AM

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View PostWarHawk_2014, on 15 March 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

I just don´t understand why they broke it again 

 

They didn't change anything ...

http://forum.worldof...629#entry773629



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View PostWarHawk_2014, on 14 March 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

Yep. Tottaly broken gamemode, plus lag spikes and frequent disconnects. Off to Frontline with me... 

I've been playing frontline....... http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/702726-dear-wg-fix-the-lag/page__pid__16729869#entry16729869 


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View PostGonerNL, on 15 March 2019 - 01:33 AM, said:

Dropping a bomb on AA and looking back in rearview I saw an explosion and everything just still stood there ... demolition expert ftw !! Shooting up AA with guns take aaaages and all that time you're a sitting duck for AA and fighters.

 

It was already before the change to demolition expert like this. The targets in these AA caps are incredibly tough. That's why I don't even try GA in this mode. For bombers ist good though, even if you get shot down a lot. You will loose but you can get a lot of damage and cap points.

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 15 March 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

So it wasn´t just me... I gave up after two battles, but didn't check WoT forum.

 

View PostGonerNL, on 15 March 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

 

They didn't change anything ...

http://forum.worldof...629#entry773629

 

Ok, I stand corrected. It just "felt" different now, more inclined to favour attacking side... I will give it a go again tonight :honoring:



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 Thats the question. They didn't change anything in the mode setup ... maybe, but environment did change. They changed AAA parameters last patch, it is questionable how much this change was tested with the old mode setup.

Similar with bots accuracy. Mode is not changed but bots are.

I cannot say I would like this to be permanent mode but as a fun interlude, why not.  Pretty suitable or 1. april as well.

 

 

 


 


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View PostWarHawk_2014, on 15 March 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

Ok, I stand corrected. 

 

I was being sarcastic ... WG always claims that 'nothing has changed' when people point out that in fact something HAS changed.

But it's silly to assume that when almost the entire player base says that the attacking side now has no chance, whereas in the previous escort mode event the defending side always lost, that is caused by 'the number of bombers per wave' ... 

 



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View PostGonerNL, on 15 March 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

 

I was being sarcastic ... 

 

 

Ok then :). The sarcasm didnt register , sorry :B. I honestly thought that that it was just me being biased by a few defeats and not enough sample size.  



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On RU server is WG looking for testers from active players. Maybe this will improve balance in next months.

 






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