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[atlasapl]

GonerNL, on 04 July 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

Also starting to doubt if I really belong at tier X ... all those specced XF-90's and Yak-30's !

 

I have wondered that about myself on more than one occasion. But I cope ok in my 109-tl when bottom tiered against t9's, which is quite often. I won't know for sure until I get a t10.

 

I guess its one reason why I stopped and seriously thought about what t10 I actually wanted to play.

[GonerNL]

The one plane that suits me seems to be the Yak-30 ... I'll have to spec it to survive up there.

[zen_monk_]

GonerNL, on 05 July 2019 - 07:07 PM, said:

I'll have to spec it to survive up there.

 

And this raises an important question: should you specialize a dog fighter or not?

 

Yak-30 is a pure turner, made for hectic fur balls over a base. In such dynamic conditions one doesn't quite have the time to check who's human or not - in a fast paced turn fight I use the health bars and enemy's wings as a "kill me first" marker. Maybe it is subjective, but I've found out I live longer and do more when in an un-specialized turner. The other humans pay less attention. I enhance the equipment to 200, select the first good perk (still working when on the first upgrade step), calibrate to the max and that's it.

The trade for anonymity works fine for me. Only for down-the-deck turners, of course.

 

Your experiences?

[BravelyRanAway]

zen_monk_, on 05 July 2019 - 08:47 PM, said:

Yak-30 is a pure turner, made for hectic fur balls over a base. 

I was thinking of going for the Yak-30 too, but looking at the Yak-19 which appears to look like a drop after the great Yak-15....is it worth the pain?

[zen_monk_]

Yes.

[BravelyRanAway]

zen_monk_, on 05 July 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

Yes.

Short and sweet like an asses gallop. 

[houghtonbee]

BravelyRanAway, on 05 July 2019 - 10:59 PM, said:

I was thinking of going for the Yak-30 too, but looking at the Yak-19 which appears to look like a drop after the great Yak-15....is it worth the pain?

 

Tier 8-10 Yaks are all superb dogfighters. Buy buy buy.

[atlasapl]

houghtonbee, on 06 July 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

Tier 8-10 Yaks are all superb dogfighters. Buy buy buy.

 

And right there is the crux of my current problem. Around 6 to 9 months ago I developed a malaise for light fighters. Its the reason why I sold most of them and started playing multiroles and heavy fighters.

 

I currently have two, the Ki-43-1 and Ki-88. Both are used for daily missions. When I can bring myself to play them that is. I need a tier 8 for the same reason.

 

The choice is to buy back either the 209A, Ta-152, Ki-94-II, or La-9. Or get the spit IX and grind the XIV. None of which really thrills me too much.

 

[GonerNL]

BravelyRanAway, on 05 July 2019 - 11:59 PM, said:

but looking at the Yak-19 which appears to look like a drop after the great Yak-15....is it worth the pain?

 

I didn't experience the Yak-19 as a pain ... I really liked it !! More than the Yak-15 to be honest.

[BravelyRanAway]

GonerNL, on 06 July 2019 - 09:59 PM, said:

 

I didn't experience the Yak-19 as a pain ... I really liked it !! More than the Yak-15 to be honest.

My concern was the 19 keeping the same guns while moving up a tier.

[GonerNL]

BravelyRanAway, on 07 July 2019 - 12:38 AM, said:

My concern was the 19 keeping the same guns while moving up a tier.

 

At least you can upgrade to 1 gun more on the 19.

But same happens when going from Yak-19 to 30 ... 3 x 23mm.

 

EDIT: It's not super, those guns, but because the Yaks are so maneuverable, you can stay on someone's tail in a dogfight. The BnZ heavies at those tiers are a bit of a problem, they are so fast they are gone before you can properly damage them.

 

Edited by GonerNL, 08 July 2019 - 07:24 AM.

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

XF-90 at full speed at 9,000ft - check.  Nose down, full power dive - check.  Too late to pull out of dive at 8,999ft - check.

 

Not for nothing is it called the ‘lawn dart’.

 

Out of the three mentioned at the head of the topic I’d go for the MiG-15bis because of the armament and the climb/dive capabilities.  The F-86A Sabre is nimble, but weak compared to a Yak-30 and I find the XF-90 too clumsy for my playing style.

Edited by RoyalFlyingCorps, 08 July 2019 - 03:50 PM.

[GonerNL]

Like I mentioned before, I took the Mig-15bis...

Already have some high-tier turnfighters (Yak-30, FJ-1, Ki-162) and a heavy (F2H), so I wanted something else. Well, it certainly is. Still trying to find out what's the best way to fly it ; it's not a real turnfighter but also not a true BnZ plane.

[AnCh]

I am here for the same request of help.

I have already unlocked the german BV.P.215.02 (which I will buy since it seems it is the exact MRF that I wanted; while keeping also the nimble tier 9) and the british Swift.

I am close to unlock Javelin and XF-90 and soon after others from different lines (depending on the time and will to play them - too many to grind ): Me P.1101, F7U, F-84F, J7W3 and Hunter. The rest are too far away for now.

But, if thee is one that it is really a full recommendation, I could use some Free XP from those 500k gathered to get it sooner.

Which one do you suggest to buy next, giving that I only have currency for one more tier 10.

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

That depends on what you like doing in the game.  The Me P.1101 is regarded as one of the best aircraft in the game, let alone its tier, but a good heavy player will appreciate the speed of the XF-90 and the firepower of the Javelin.  The J7W3 is slow, but has destructive guns, whilst the Hunter has those and ordnance coming out of its ears.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to get the F7U or the F-84F, personally.

 

The Me P.1101 is one of those planes you can build towards two different styles; either HiNRG or turn fighting.  Actually, I find it's best blending the two styles depending on situation and your current target, so you'd go HiNRG against Yaks, but turn with less manoeuvrable planes.  I think it's that versatility that makes it so appreciated by players.

[AnCh]

Thank you very much for the description of the airplanes and their behavior. I will try to gather as much credits as I can so I can also buy the other planes, from your description, as well. I don't have a particular likeness or lean for one specific style of gameplay or the other. I just choose the planes I like to play depending on the feel and the day I have.

I liked that P.228 after I realized its powerful weapons, rockets and motors. It has a good place in my heart since it helped me finish the last mission for the Vampire without using tokens and did a good job when chasing other heavies.

So, the next ones for me will be Javelin and Me P.1101. 

 

Cheers!

 

p.s. I am sorry for the way I speak/write but sometimes it is hard for me to find the correct words.

Edited by AnCh, 15 July 2019 - 08:59 AM.

[Ensign_Steel]

As long as you don't make the mistake I did and went down the Japanese Ki-line. After the GLORIOUS Ki-84 and even grander Ki-94-II, The Ki-162 is a bunch of buttocks. I suspect the T10 Ki-162-III isn't going to be much better, but as the old saying goes, "In for a penny, in for a pound."

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Ensign_Steel, on 22 July 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

As long as you don't make the mistake I did and went down the Japanese Ki-line. After the GLORIOUS Ki-84 and even grander Ki-94-II, The Ki-162 is a bunch of buttocks. I suspect the T10 Ki-162-III isn't going to be much better, but as the old saying goes, "In for a penny, in for a pound."

I too made that mistake.they're great up to tier 7 but after  that they go downhill.

 

The tier 9 is a hateful machine.the guns are atrocious

Even with a 9 point pilot, with marksman 1 & 2. I couldn't shoot a barn from the inside with this thing.

 

But the tier 10 is marginally better than the tier 9 purely because the guns are more accurate.

 

It maybe better when specialised.

 

 

Edited by BlankSlate, 22 July 2019 - 02:41 PM.

[Ensign_Steel]

BlankSlate, on 22 July 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

I too made that mistake.they're great up to tier 7 but after  that they go downhill.

 

The tier 9 is a hateful machine.the guns are atrocious

Even with a 9 point pilot, with marksman 1 & 2. I couldn't shoot a barn from the inside with this thing.

 

But the tier 10 is marginally better than the tier 9 purely because the guns are more accurate.

 

It maybe better when specialised.

 

 

 

The guns are horrid. I know by now how much to lead so I can hit stuff pretty accurately, but for me the problem is how damn fast they overheat. The Ki-162 doesn't seem to know what it exactly is either - it's like it's trying to be a turn fighter and a BnZ fighter at the same time.

 

Definitely regretting this decision, but I'm going to see it 'til the end.

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Ensign_Steel, on 22 July 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

The guns are horrid. I know by now how much to lead so I can hit stuff pretty accurately, but for me the problem is how damn fast they overheat. The Ki-162 doesn't seem to know what it exactly is either - it's like it's trying to be a turn fighter and a BnZ fighter at the same time.

 

Definitely regretting this decision, but I'm going to see it 'til the end.

 

Well your a better marksman than me!, I found it hard to hit anything at all in the tier 9