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GonerNL #1 Posted 08 August 2019 - 09:42 PM

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... MM reaches an all time low by putting your tier IX J7W2 and a stock EF-131 against a tier X specced flight of F-86a and XF-90 ... I let them shoot me down once and quit. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

8 defeats, 2 victories ... might as well quit completely. Why pay for this nonsense ?

 

 


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View PostGonerNL, on 08 August 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

... MM reaches an all time low by putting your tier IX J7W2 and a stock EF-131 against a tier X specced flight of F-86a and XF-90 ... I let them shoot me down once and quit. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

8 defeats, 2 victories ... might as well quit completely. Why pay for this nonsense ?

 

 


Frustrating... I played maybe a dozen battles the last 2 days, T4-T8, all but one I ended up in lower tier, a lot of weird MM in many battles like 3 specced turn LF's in red team vs 3 bot LF's in blue, who had our human players in lower tier. roflstomp of course. I don't mind losing battles but things are sometimes ridiculous.


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Ensign_Steel #3 Posted 09 August 2019 - 07:16 AM

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Eyuup... Been seeing this kind of crap a lot lately. I've been lucky though, most often been in the same team with some unspecialized plane that ends up carrying the team when I fail everything I try. But it just feels wrong and f'd up if one team has every human player in planes that are specialized and tuned to perfection while the other team has none - and it doesn't matter which team you find yourself in.

 

Like seriously, WG. Address the issue already?


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Aimless #4 Posted 09 August 2019 - 08:24 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 08 August 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

... MM reaches an all time low by putting your tier IX J7W2 and a stock EF-131 against a tier X specced flight of F-86a and XF-90 ... I let them shoot me down once and quit. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

8 defeats, 2 victories ... might as well quit completely. Why pay for this nonsense ?

 

 

 

I agree to your complaints. There are battles or even whole evenings when you just want to puke, and there have been quite some for me within the last week. And it's not only the silly way the MM is designed currently.

 

Why pay? Well, you don't have to. If I was forced to pay for anything, I wouldn't play this game anymore.



Discontinued #5 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:26 AM

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Yes I too have noticed some very fast games in the last few days, has the MM been tweaked?

 

Ive had times where i lost 5 in a row on a grind only to win the next 7 in a row its very weird.

 

I even commented in game to the enemy that it was unfair to for my team win so quickly and at tier 8-10 earning just 3k pp because the battle is over so fast really isn't much fun for Victorious or the Defeated team.

 

It seems strange that I get more wins with lower scores and high scores on defeats?

 

 


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Aimless #6 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:35 AM

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View PostDiscontinued, on 09 August 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

 

It seems strange that I get more wins with lower scores and high scores on defeats?

 

 

It may seem strange but actually that's the usual case if you're not strong enough to carry your team to victory, but not l4me enough to get defeated the same way your team does :P



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Just had 8 losses in a row at tier 10 logging out for the day :(

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jss78 #8 Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:19 PM

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There's basically no way to do a reasonable MM with the player numbers in this game.

 

In Warships etc. with guaranteed 12 humans per side, the whole thing kinda works a lot of the time because with 24 humans drawn randomly, you tend to get both good and not-so-good players in both teams. With 2-3 humans per team, the law of large numbers it out the window, and it's pure lottery. Whoever gets the good player (or worse, two of them) is very likely to win.

 

And then you have stuff that's just plain stupid, and not even bad RNG, such as placing a single human vs. a flight of two humans. Personally I just go read the internet instead of playing in these games. As far as I'm concerned, the MM needs to at least try for me to feel obligated to participate.

 

 

 



Discontinued #9 Posted 10 August 2019 - 03:50 PM

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yes it does seem that way, i went on to lose another bunch of games, but I was blind drunk...23 lost in a row! must be a medal for that :D

 

Today even with a bad hangover ive achieved a more balanced set of results, closer to 50-50, which is rather surprising on a Saturday. 


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zen_monk_ #10 Posted 10 August 2019 - 06:13 PM

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If you can meet with Win and Loss
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Yours is the WoWP and everything that’s in it

    And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

 

Scr%& wins and losses, fly your magnificent Sabre mit eleganz and enjoy in each kill, each effortless glide and swoop. That's the core of it.

 

Worrying about losses is kinda vulgar, for the masses. :teethhappy:


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Aimless #11 Posted 10 August 2019 - 08:24 PM

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View Postzen_monk_, on 10 August 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

Worrying about losses is kinda vulgar, for the masses. :teethhappy:

 

Sometimes (to be precise, when all my dailies tell me to do very stupid things and win either way) I'm worried to say it in a friendly way, just can't help myself. I still need quite some tokens for me Vampire  :angry:



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View Postzen_monk_, on 10 August 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

If you can meet with Win and Loss
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   

Yours is the WoWP and everything that’s in it

    And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

 

Scr%& wins and losses, fly your magnificent Sabre mit eleganz and enjoy in each kill, each effortless glide and swoop. That's the core of it.

 

Worrying about losses is kinda vulgar, for the masses. :teethhappy:

 

 

Yes Zen

 

 it was a lesson in not caring 

 

That skin you gave me has +100% not caring about stats bonus,

 

 

btw i specialised the F86 and my god its almost to much plane for Capt Disco. Its, so agile I may have to turn my mouse down to 99% :ohmy:

 


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zen_monk_ #13 Posted 10 August 2019 - 08:35 PM

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View PostAimless, on 10 August 2019 - 08:24 PM, said:

 

Sometimes (to be precise, when all my dailies tell me to do very stupid things and win either way) I'm worried to say it in a friendly way, just can't help myself. I still need quite some tokens for me Vampire  :angry:

 

I said it in a joking way. It needs an explanation given in a twist of Kipling to be taken so.

 

But it is a true one for me.

 

And Disco, yes it is a weapon from a more civilized age :teethhappy:  I'm glad you enjoy it.

 

Thank you so much for this one...

View PostDiscontinued, on 10 August 2019 - 08:33 PM, said:

That skin you gave me has +100% not caring about stats bonus,

...the finest definition I've ever heard.

 

 

 


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View Postzen_monk_, on 10 August 2019 - 08:35 PM, said:

 

I said it in a joking way. It needs an explanation given in a twist of Kipling to be taken so.

 

But it is a true one for me.

 

And Disco, yes it is a weapon from a more civilized age :teethhappy:  I'm glad you enjoy it.

 

Well if you hadn't encouraged me to do it i would never have gone up the Mustang line, the tier 6 was purgatory though..thank the wowp god for making 100% exp boosters,

 

 

 


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zen_monk_ #15 Posted 10 August 2019 - 09:00 PM

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View PostDiscontinued, on 10 August 2019 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

Well if you hadn't encouraged me to do it i would never have gone up the Mustang line, the tier 6 was purgatory though..thank the wowp god for making 100% exp boosters,

 

 

They actually did a good job with Tier 6. The real Razorback Mustang was mediocre at best, assigned to secondary roles, but it showed promise. Just like in the game. Then they slapped a Merlin into it, placed six instead of four dakka dakka, a bubble canopy, and voila - the star was born. Mustang D on tier 7. I've returned to Tier 7 last week, specialized it and went to 400 all (damn DAMN mechanical parts) and it's better then I remembered even with a mere 6 points pilot.

 

From then on it only gets better and better, with a Fury at tier 9 which is so good you question wheter to go to tier 10 at all. (go) All this goes only for fully researched planes, of course.

 

This is a brief review of the 'Stang line. All smooth sailing, bump at tier 6, then more and more smiles - provided you like dakka dakka.


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View Postzen_monk_, on 10 August 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

 provided you like dakka dakka.

 

What there are people who don't like Dakka Dakka.

 

We must purge these heathen

 

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GonerNL #17 Posted 12 August 2019 - 07:35 AM

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View Postzen_monk_, on 10 August 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

with a Fury at tier 9 which is so good you question wheter to go to tier 10 at all. 

 

I got the F-86A yesterday evening.

So far it's much better than the Fury ... ran into some aces flying J7W3's for the event and one even managed to out-turn me !? But once I got the new pilot to 100% in one battle, it handled better. Takes ages to kill stuff however ...



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View PostGonerNL, on 12 August 2019 - 07:35 AM, said:

ran into some aces flying J7W3's for the event and one even managed to out-turn me !?

 

With a right light setup and a good pilot you can make Maneuverability over 100. Nothing will out-turn you except Yak-30.


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What Zen said, You are the king of dogfight apart Yak-30s. Now add speed and altitude so you can easily select to engage or avoid Yak-30s, the only draw back is week firepower which is necessary for not becoming to much OP




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