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Ziptop #1 Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:06 AM

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I just had a few amazing battles with loads of human pilots in game.....and wow! Does it make a difference.

 

I honestly didn't really care if I won or lost, the sheer buzz of a chaotic mass dogfight with actual human players was such good fun I ended up staying on until way too late.

Saw quite a diverse selection of aircraft too. 

 

We need more of this. But ideally not having to stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning to find it.



GonerNL #2 Posted 13 September 2019 - 08:03 AM

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Yep, battles with 7 or 8 humans on each team can be great, IF matchmaking more or less creates a balance (which doesn't happen that often, alas). Sometimes you can actually work together when nobody has other priorities than winning (like missions etc).

Battles with only 1 or 2 humans are mostly sad affairs where 1 team gets exactly those planes suited to kill the human(s) on the other team, like bombers vs heavies.



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View PostGonerNL, on 13 September 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

Yep, battles with 7 or 8 humans on each team can be great, IF matchmaking more or less creates a balance (which doesn't happen that often, alas). Sometimes you can actually work together when nobody has other priorities than winning (like missions etc).

Battles with only 1 or 2 humans are mostly sad affairs where 1 team gets exactly those planes suited to kill the human(s) on the other team, like bombers vs heavies.

 

Yes this is especially true at the higher tiers, it can be problematic facing the same two humans in a flight over and over.

 

Luckily if I play well the F86 Sabre takes care of this issue.But it can get disheartening seeing that enemy flight with a GAA and Bomber game after game..you know you will struggle against such a flight. Unless you are me!

 

 

 

Conversely, having a half decent team of humans, is the most fun. Sometimes you even get someone (usually me) who says "i'll take plant, you cover Missile bases" or something like that. Suddenly you are working as a team covering caps, or each others tails 

 

Win or lose these games are sometimes very close battles  and above all really enjoyable...

 

We need some event to drag people in TV adverts would be good....although pricey..

 

Alternatively they could just close down WOT, which would bring in loads of players...:teethhappy:


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invader_from_mars #4 Posted 13 September 2019 - 12:08 PM

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Close battles in WoWP? In which universe or dimension? Its rare as a white raven. I have time to play after work hours in the evening. Nowadays in tier 10 i always face the same flight, and they always fly their op spec planes, so they just stat pad. Well if you have 40% winrate lettuce teammates (omg sooo many out there) good luck! Yes those battles are fair and enjoyable(lol) No problem here, but with this low playerbase YOU FACE THEM EVERY BATTLE and i mean EVERY!!! Funny when you meet the same players for 10 battles in row :)

Nibloke #5 Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:22 PM

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I wonder when that duel PvP mode comes in  this year. Will it attract more people (old and new) to the game. or will it divide the current player base between the 2 modes (base-mode and duel-mode)?

 

because I love games with a lot of people but at the moment I see only 2x4 players each match maximum. In my 2 first games the enemy team didn't have a single player but my team had 2 players.

 

Some how I think the 2 modes won't have enough players to be fun or will have a long waiting time.


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GonerNL #6 Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:45 PM

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View Postinvader_from_mars, on 13 September 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

Nowadays in tier 10 i always face the same flight, and they always fly their op spec planes, 

 

Tier X is hopeless ; if you want human adversaries, play Vi, VII maybe VIII ... in peak hours.



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View PostGonerNL, on 13 September 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

Yep, battles with 7 or 8 humans on each team can be great

And for me battles woth 7 or even 8 humans are total failure. Absolutely no fun at all, just some sort of retarded whack-a-mole party. With current meta + map designs it's mostly one-sided rotflstomps. Battles are somewhat competitive with 4-5 players; with 1-2 per side is just "who plays for objectives and have better bots in team", with >6 players it's total chaos, in dogfights - constant friendly/enemy ramming, kill stealing, random bomb trap deaths, just...chaos.

 

Good luck being in a team that have to capture airfield + garrison, while having command center (you all know that map) in a battle 7 vs 7. Or being in a team that lost fight over factory in that desert map (factory + 2 airfields) and now have to re-capture it...



Ensign_Steel #8 Posted 15 September 2019 - 12:18 PM

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I prefer matches with as few people as possible. Better chances to win that way.

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View PostNibloke, on 13 September 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

I wonder when that duel PvP mode comes in  this year. Will it attract more people (old and new) to the game. or will it divide the current player base between the 2 modes (base-mode and duel-mode)?

 

because I love games with a lot of people but at the moment I see only 2x4 players each match maximum. In my 2 first games the enemy team didn't have a single player but my team had 2 players.

 

Some how I think the 2 modes won't have enough players to be fun or will have a long waiting time.

 

Welcome to the forum Nibloke:honoring:

 

Always good to see some new people here,

 

PVP would interest me, i just hope its well implemented, I kinda liked those missions in Warships

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Timewarp76 #10 Posted 16 September 2019 - 09:05 AM

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View PostZiptop, on 13 September 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

I just had a few amazing battles with loads of human pilots in game.....and wow! Does it make a difference.

 

I honestly didn't really care if I won or lost, the sheer buzz of a chaotic mass dogfight with actual human players was such good fun I ended up staying on until way too late.

Saw quite a diverse selection of aircraft too. 

 

We need more of this. But ideally not having to stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning to find it.


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0berhessen #11 Posted 20 September 2019 - 04:54 AM

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Recently i had some Battles on Tier 4/5/6 realtively crowded and i completely agree!

It was pure fun!


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chapultacus #12 Posted 26 September 2019 - 09:05 AM

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hi guys. hall of fame page says I'm 58th in the rankings and I'm better than 99.14% of the players. so there are 58 people in the first 0.86% zone. So with a simple math calculation, there are a total of 6744 players on the European server. I don't know how many players were before version 2.0, but I know that 6744 players are too low for both matching and game financing. don't be surprised if there isn't a wowp to play near future.

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Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't the ranking only count after 1000 battles, so the population of casual players may well be a lot higher?

From my undersatanding. The other titles help fund WOWP too and as part of their trilogy I doubt it will go under that soon..but i could be wrong

 

There are some other older games out there which are still active with very low player bases...that have not died..What could possibly happen is that they sell off the title to another company as they did with Warrock and Combat Arms there was a lot of dumbing down in both games in order to attract a younger less cultured audience. All of a sudden my specialist seal  team lady was looking outdated by being replaced by people with clown and Bikini costumes,pink and blue Assault rifles and such which to me is criminal and a sad indictment on our society...rant over 

 

But those two titles are still going strong.

 

One exception I can think of was Pangya / Albatross 18 which was a really cool golf MMO that did go under numerous times,  although it had quite a large player base, I don't think hardly anyone bought stuff...Except me I just had to have a .38 revolver, panama hat and cigar for my golf guy.

 

 

If the game dies so be it, enjoy it while it lasts..... nothing lasts forever as Bryan Ferry said.

 

 


 

 

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chapultacus #14 Posted 26 September 2019 - 11:03 AM

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yes you're right, people are ranked after 1000 battles. so there are an estimated 10k players in the game. i don't know if they finance this game with other games, but i think they will still have some financial hardship. as bryan and you said mate, nothing lasts forever, let's enjoy it. 

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View Postchapultacus, on 26 September 2019 - 11:03 AM, said:

. i don't know if they finance this game with other games

 

Of course they do, from the day one.

 

This game has never been self-sufficient, but is a part of a long time ago proclaimed goal "We will have Tanks, Planes and Ships". Therefore it has to stay on the market, the closure would hurt company's image (from there, the finances too).

 

Ships can hold their own, but we have always been fed with money from Tanks, a golden hen of WG. So we would last exactly as long the Tanks & Ships last.


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chapultacus #16 Posted 26 September 2019 - 11:35 AM

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who knows, there may be a new 3in1 game in the future. it would be nice if there is a plan with tanks, ships and planes in the same battle. no matter how they do it, I want to play with real people.

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View Postchapultacus, on 26 September 2019 - 12:35 PM, said:

who knows, there may be a new 3in1 game in the future. it would be nice if there is a plan with tanks, ships and planes in the same battle. no matter how they do it, I want to play with real people.

 

... But in the recent upgrade of warship, the gameplay of the aircraft carrier has been modified.

Now you control planes with outside view to bomb boats or launch torpedoes.

 

So, I don't believe in the future with 3in1 game. It is a shame.






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