Jump to content


Strategic Strike


  • Please log in to reply
118 replies to this topic

CaptainAim #41 Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:13 AM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014

This topic would be more useful if you guys would post the average of your 10 best fights.

I think Spider000 knows something we don't. What is strange is that he doesn't seem to play a lot, yet when he does he gets veeeery lucky. Weird. Also he is a whiner, I don't like whiners and map clickers. Sorry about that.

 

My best battle so far was 203, I think. Also did a few battles with good results, not too many. The rest not so good. it takes ages to make a good result. And that is because the MM, who makes one team too weak vs other which is too strong. So if I cap 3 sectors alone and the team caps 2, we have superiority and game ends quickly. No way to make more than 60-80 points in a battle like that. Vice-versa also brings the same results, you spawn and you die before reaching a sector because the spawn point is invaded by enemies. A balanced fight though brings a minimum of 100 points, and most usually around 110-118 rarely significantly higher. Take into account your own team competition: a friendly bomber who most likely will go for exactly the same targets as you do and the chance for 10 awesome results goes down the drain. MM teams me up with very good bomber pilots and awful fighter pilots who make around 1000 pp by mid-game, the more dead than alive kind. That being said it's a major pain to get anything done right. That leads to frustration, more smoking brakes and less chances even in perseverance rating. Not pleased of my performance so far. 

 

I guess it will be up to luck again. :coin:



zen_monk_ #42 Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:22 AM

    First Lieutenant

  • Alpha Tester
  • 8182 battles
  • 2,603
  • [__] __
  • Member since:
    01-26-2012
Careful intentional dying in your sector to flip it to the enemy, to make battles last longer = more points?

stats were invented by Satan himself to suck the carefree fun out of gaming                            


Sidus_Preclarum #43 Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:48 AM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 6561 battles
  • 314
  • Member since:
    09-15-2012
Well, not regretting my choice of watching Japan-Scotland instead of playing, Japan's passing is pure porn.

CaptainAim #44 Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:01 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014

View PostSidus_Preclarum, on 13 October 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

Finally specialised the EF. 128 games.

31% faster reload does seem to make a difference, from the game I've played.

 

OK, congrats, let us know what does that mean in terms of the number of sections destroyed per battle.



Sidus_Preclarum #45 Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:12 PM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 6561 battles
  • 314
  • Member since:
    09-15-2012

View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

OK, congrats, let us know what does that mean in terms of the number of sections destroyed per battle.

Well, I can tell you Scotland is back within a converted try distance of Japan.

 

 

*edit*

BANZAI ! \o/

BANZAI ! \o/

BANZAI ! \o/

 

To come back to your question, I'm not sure my avg would help. best 10 avg is 141, which must be waaaaaay below what the luminaries of this game are pulling. And I've only played 3 games specced so far, so that's statistically meaningless. Will tell ya when I have a dozen or so games, but I have another 4 hours+ hiatus in sight, going to the Stadium, to go and watch another but probably ten times less thrilling game of rugby.

 


Edited by Sidus_Preclarum, 13 October 2019 - 01:12 PM.


Light_Slash #46 Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:29 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

To be honest with you guys, for me it really depends on the map lay-out. If you only have 5 Garrisons, you immediately now the game will last longer cause there are no sectors which give you benefits, so (for me at least) you don't have to use boost in order to get to the enemies side, plus you'll take it slow and let bots do their thing that they are best known for ......... and that is to die. Though, when it comes to lay-outs that have beneficial sectors in the middle, you need to look one step ahead, try to cap Garrisons that are near by (if there are any) and let enemy first take the middle sector, so you could cap it afterwards(if they do it quick, you know you will have a good chance in scoring good results) and so on and so forth....

From my side, I used Ju 288 C, why you might ask? Well, not in a single game did I have to brawl it out with my team mates for the title of "who is going to have the most sections destroyed". My average (in the course of 10 battles) is over 130 sections, which I think is ok for "Mastery" rating, and I'm hoping I'll get into 21-30 ranking spot. However, while I was reading your comments, I saw that people are getting over 185 sections of ground targets, on one hand, but, the other thing is, you guys are having problems with how long the game lasts on the other hand, so, If I......... who plays Ju 288 (which is not a terrible plane, but not the best one either) scores 130 sections on average in a game that lasts on average 7:30 - 8:00 min. Some people here score in the same time frame, more then 185 sections of ground targets.

More then 185 sections in an average time frame of 8:00 minutes
.......Let that sink in.

I don't want to name names, but there is clearly a disadvantage and a player gap between certain minority and a majority of player base. Though, I don't see my self as a tryhard player who needs to win every single game, always plays broken planes that were barely balanced, is always in the right place at the right time, killing bots instantly in matter of milliseconds......
And yet, nothing is changing in this game. The only good news I'm happy about is the infamous PvP that WarGaming is going to put into WoWp and we can finally test our wits, but for now, I understand every single one of you who have the problem of scoring impossible scores over 150 due to lack of time, bots being bots and so on. I know that Ju 287 and EF 131 are broken af nut the reason why i didn't use them in this event is because i really thought that other planes will have their own advantages in certain situations, but i was clearly delusional.............Ju 287 and EF are supreme (that goes for Su-10 as well), they have high dmg pay-load, can maintain speeds over 800km/h, always bomb form altitude of 500m, even thou they can go over 4500m.....
But at the end of the day, i have to brush it off of me and move on, onto another game and repeat the never ending cycle of agony, anxiety, rage. It's sad, but I choose to fight :)

Btw.....buff AA guns cuz they don't do shi...........!   

  



CaptainAim #47 Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:49 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014
if you have an average of 130 over 10 best games with your ju 288 c, then you are doing better than I do in my specialized EF 131 and this while most of times I do better than all bombers in both teams. Even spider000 had games worse than mine and he is aiming for mastery for sure. so attaining an average of 185 sections with a lower tier seems ridiculous and if that is true than the game is broken, the event is a hoax and I should stop playing right now.

Light_Slash #48 Posted 13 October 2019 - 01:32 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

if you have an average of 130 over 10 best games with your ju 288 c, then you are doing better than I do in my specialized EF 131 and this while most of times I do better than all bombers in both teams. Even spider000 had games worse than mine and he is aiming for mastery for sure. so attaining an average of 185 sections with a lower tier seems ridiculous and if that is true than the game is broken, the event is a hoax and I should stop playing right now.

Well, when you say that it's ridiculous, you are actually right :D
The problem is, tier X doesn't have anything above it that can stop it, that's a fact, there is no tier 11, we can all agree.
So, what happens, tier 9 planes struggle to keep up with EF and Su-10 cause those two planes can maintain 800-850km/h over a time period of 30 sec, which is INSANE. That's why tier 9 falls of and what are you left with? XF-90, Javelin, HG III. What's the next problem? (Generally speaking) you don't see as much HF in your games that are piloted by players WHO KNOW (that's crucial) THAT, IF they can duo the bomber (with another player or a bot), THEN, AS A TEAM, you'll benefit. Why? If you try soloing the bomber (doesn't matter on which altitude) you'll start to realize that losing health to a single target is not profitable (target that deals cumulative damage over 280 (which is EF)), AND YOU KNOW (cuz you played bombers) that when bots attack you, and you start to deal critical dmg, they will start to disengage, and when you achieve that, you can bomb freely (obviously if you're flying on altitude of 500m).

So the recipe for best score is: have really good speed, a really decent dmg output, and a heavy pay-load...............Hmmm it sounds so familiar, i wonder which plane coul.........oh it's EF and Su-10. 



invader_from_mars #49 Posted 13 October 2019 - 01:53 PM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 9495 battles
  • 229
  • Member since:
    12-27-2013

meanwhile the tier 10 heavy bot (end game results):

 

Hey WG, maybe tell your heavy bots, chasing only bombers is not so great, they should do something else :popcorn:



Sheldwin #50 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:00 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 2362 battles
  • 23
  • Member since:
    11-08-2015
From my point of view this part of The Fall Campaign's with bombers is more about to have specialized plane than previous ones.

Light_Slash #51 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:01 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

View Postinvader_from_mars, on 13 October 2019 - 01:53 PM, said:

meanwhile the tier 10 heavy bot (end game results):

 

Hey WG, maybe tell your heavy bots, chasing only bombers is not so great, they should do something else :popcorn:

There you go, just as I suspected.
Bots are major  MAJOR  issue in this game. The functions for "Requesting Support" and "Enemy on My Tail" basically don't work.


Edited by Light_Slash, 13 October 2019 - 02:04 PM.


Light_Slash #52 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:03 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

View PostSheldwin, on 13 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

From my point of view this part of The Fall Campaign's with bombers is more about to have specialized plane than previous ones.

Pretty much yes.....when you get to tier 10 (As you can see from Invaders picture) you are unstoppable. 
It doesn't feel balanced, that's the main problem

 



CaptainAim #53 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:26 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014

View PostLight_Slash, on 13 October 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

So the recipe for best score is: have really good speed, a really decent dmg output, and a heavy pay-load...............Hmmm it sounds so familiar, i wonder which plane coul.........oh it's EF and Su-10. 

 

I was left with the impression that you said the JU 288 C can average 185 sectors per battle; that is something most tier 10 bomber pilots dream of. They usually do below 60, now a litlle more during the event around 100 maybe for some of them in some battles. So if that is the case if Ju 288 can average so many sectors then the tier 10 players have wasted a weekend for nothing. And they will not be happy.

 

 



And I have absolutely no idea how you guys can get games with HF scoring so low. I am usually the main and only target for ALL HF in enemy teams even for fighters and GA. While I can manage them one on one with my rear gunner while on full health, once I lose hp I am as good as dead especially to bots. For some reason most humans still suck at HF at tier 10. I didn't say all.
 

Light_Slash #54 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:40 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

And I have absolutely no idea how you guys can get games with HF scoring so low. I am usually the main and only target for ALL HF in enemy teams even for fighters and GA. While I can manage them one on one with my rear gunner while on full health, once I lose hp I am as good as dead especially to bots. For some reason most humans still suck at HF at tier 10. I didn't say all.

Well the point is (when you see the picture and time frame of the game) that bots usually (on every tier) react the same. What does that mean? Well the lower the game time, even less probability that HF will do something (when you include concealment and upgrades that make you invisible to targets). When "Squall line" happens, I immediately think of them saying stuff like "WARNING, SQUALL LINE INITIATED, PROGRAM ACTIVATED - DESTROY EVERY BOMBER" or something like that, then I (in panic of course) try to out maneuver 3 HF that are on my butt.
That's why bombers on tier 10 are so OP, cause they can finish games faster, other then Ju 288 for example.

    



CaptainAim #55 Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:44 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014
Good point.

Light_Slash #56 Posted 13 October 2019 - 03:05 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 6162 battles
  • 18
  • Member since:
    07-24-2015

View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

 

I was left with the impression that you said the JU 288 C can average 185 sectors per battle; that is something most tier 10 bomber pilots dream of. They usually do below 60, now a litlle more during the event around 100 maybe for some of them in some battles. So if that is the case if Ju 288 can average so many sectors then the tier 10 players have wasted a weekend for nothing. And they will not be happy.

 

 

Well, the reason why I have more than 130 sections of GT is because I "studied" (sort of speaking) the over all usage of certain planes in the game, and I KNEW that tier 10 will be occupied with others trying to do the same - capture the most sections of GT possible, and how can you do that when in your team you have 1 or 2 players with same idea as you, PLUS you end the game in a period of 6:30, I hope you understand my point of view. That's why I gambled on Ju 288 cause I knew I can score more then 120 IF and only IF no one plays it, and it turned out to go into my advantage.   



deaxter_hero #57 Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:05 PM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Conquest Member
  • 5927 battles
  • 220
  • [-DFA-] -DFA-
  • Member since:
    09-17-2013

View PostSPIDER000, on 12 October 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

 

Said guy, who made 214 points last night... My top games now look silly in comparism with yours. GJ anyway - I believe this score won't be beaten.

My clan mate Mitragyn did 228 with EF ;).


 


CaptainAim #58 Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:30 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 5362 battles
  • 87
  • Member since:
    11-24-2014

View Postdeaxter_hero, on 13 October 2019 - 06:05 PM, said:

My clan mate Mitragyn did 228 with EF ;).

 

In one battle, yes sure, each battle no for sure. He gets good results generally, he will be in top for mastery I think.

 

 

View PostLight_Slash, on 13 October 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well, the reason why I have more than 130 sections of GT is because I "studied" (sort of speaking) the over all usage of certain planes in the game, and I KNEW that tier 10 will be occupied with others trying to do the same - capture the most sections of GT possible, and how can you do that when in your team you have 1 or 2 players with same idea as you, PLUS you end the game in a period of 6:30, I hope you understand my point of view. That's why I gambled on Ju 288 cause I knew I can score more then 120 IF and only IF no one plays it, and it turned out to go into my advantage.   

 

You can't know for sure yet. But I hope you are right. I like your reason. Obviously most pushed higher in tiers for more sections but we got now battles with 3 bombers per team. This is cannibalism, and that ain't fun. Where is the team here?

 


 

Sidus_Preclarum #59 Posted 13 October 2019 - 05:34 PM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Advanced Member
  • 6561 battles
  • 314
  • Member since:
    09-15-2012
Well, rugby game was awfully close but way more pleasant that expected, so I guess the event is over for me, as I'm currently intending to down a pint or two. Or six. Gl to you guys, may the HF in your opposite teams chase the other guy.:honoring:

kaloianxxl #60 Posted 13 October 2019 - 06:56 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Beta Tester
  • 8654 battles
  • 43
  • Member since:
    12-25-2012

With over 30 fights, players must enter the rankings for perseverance .

What skills have someone played 100 battles that three days?






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users