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Light_Slash #61 Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:07 PM

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View Postkaloianxxl, on 13 October 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

With over 30 fights, players must enter the rankings for perseverance .

What skills have someone played 100 battles that three days?

Probably me, grinding it out :D
But I chose Mastery for this one, tho i recon other people who are not confident in their skills, chose perseverance as their main option.

 



Sidus_Preclarum #62 Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:18 PM

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Usually that's how it unfolds for me : aim for mastery, end up in perseverance.

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deaxter_hero #63 Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:28 PM

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View PostSidus_Preclarum, on 13 October 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

Finally specialised the EF. 128 games.

31% faster reload does seem to make a difference, from the game I've played.

It makes all the difference in the world. First I tried to equip Ju-287 for accuracy - what a waste of time! Then I went for bomber reload and wr improved by 20%. Ju 287 and EF have the same reload time...


 


deaxter_hero #64 Posted 13 October 2019 - 09:26 PM

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View Postdeaxter_hero, on 13 October 2019 - 04:05 PM, said:

My clan mate Mitragyn did 228 with EF ;).

To make you guys feel better - he lost that battle ;).:ohmy:


 


SPIDER000 #65 Posted 13 October 2019 - 10:16 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 11:13 AM, said:

I think Spider000 knows something we don't. What is strange is that he doesn't seem to play a lot, yet when he does he gets veeeery lucky. Weird. Also he is a whiner, I don't like whiners and map clickers. Sorry about that.

 

I don't know, what exactly you are talking about. I also won't be extensively disputing any of these insults, i find them inapropriate and unfounded (I dont think, I had any beef or strugle with you so far). Furthemore, I do not even know, what u mean by map clicker, but that probably doesn't even matter here.

Anyway, being called lucky has became some local tradition, I hear that quite often. Luck is part of this game, but we all should agree, luck itself cannot be essential factor for having consistent results, or can be? ...(no... of course can't and isn't.)

 

But what i find really odd, that you mention me in context of "knowing something u don't" (and other stuff), but there are players with better results (guys with over 210 sections destroyed - I have never made managed to get so many) then me - how you are not questioning their ways..? Just wondering.



dirty_magic #66 Posted 13 October 2019 - 10:34 PM

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One more event finished.

I can say that I'm happy that is over - because it was frustrating if u chase chevrons.

I am not so god player on bombers - and I was aware that mastery for me on this event is out of the question. Then I armed myself with patience and excel spreadsheet and played 171 games in these 3 days with Ju 88A, Do217 and EF131.... and it was boring...

To put planes from tier V to tier X in the same category, in my opinion, was a WG big mistake. To divide the planes into two groups maybe was a better solution. Tiers V-VII in one and IX-X in second. That was because players with tiers V-VII can not compete with higher tiers - that was especially true with soviet bombers - Pe2 cant make a result that is close to result what can be made with Su10. 

My best result with JU88 was 117 destroyed sections (it was luck that game lasted enough to make that) but mainly that number is from 35 to 80...Do217 is not better... the majority of the games I played with EF131 and my best game was 157 destroyed sections...nothing special I know. At the end of the event, I finished 171 games with 113 wins 1 draw and 57 lose or  66,08 %..what was a big surprise for me because I'm not a bomber lover and I play with them only to have them for missions and tasks.

In the end, I destroyed 15.506 sections in all games or 90,67 sections per game. Hope it will be enough for the upper half of the winners...(again must emphasise, like, in the last event, that absence of any ladder is frustrating).

I can not say thanks to WG for this event - because it was not nearly funny like 2 events before. -  play with just bombers for one event is boring...

 



SPIDER000 #67 Posted 13 October 2019 - 10:35 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 13 October 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

if you have an average of 130 over 10 best games with your ju 288 c, then you are doing better than I do in my specialized EF 131 and this while most of times I do better than all bombers in both teams. Even spider000 had games worse than mine and he is aiming for mastery for sure. so attaining an average of 185 sections with a lower tier seems ridiculous and if that is true than the game is broken, the event is a hoax and I should stop playing right now.

Final result of points is sum of ten BEST games. So having few (or even many) weak games (mostly for game ending too quickly because of air superiority) does not mean, u cannot also have 10 games reaching over 190 points. And yes, I took part in many bad battles, and yes, I'm sure I also was able to get lower score then you in that particular battle, but that has absolutely no effect on final result mentioned above. There is no valid reason for calling this event a hoax, or stating that game client is broken. So far it worked well - at least in terms of what it was supposed to do during the events - for what I have seen.

 

P.S.: As u have asked for our average - My top10 average should be approximately 197 points with Soviet machines (mostly SU-10)



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View Postdeaxter_hero, on 13 October 2019 - 04:05 PM, said:

My clan mate Mitragyn did 228 with EF ;).

Looks like my prediction was wrong... Im glad I focused on Soviet line, so I don't have to beat these guys, cos their results are actualy insane.

(And I thought this event is going to be easy peasy. Well, another bad guess :) )

 

Btw. battles, where u are losing are actualy better for your chances of higher score, as long enemy provide u with sectors-potential targets for your bombs. But u have to lose just slightly, so battle lasts long enough. Also not capturing all the sectors in the begining (letting some neutral) is good way how to stretch the battle, bot bots can be not very cooperative in these tactics.


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I had the smartest approach.  I didn't touch any of my bombers over the weekend.

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View PostSPIDER000, on 14 October 2019 - 12:16 AM, said:

 

I don't know, what exactly you are talking about. I also won't be extensively disputing any of these insults, i find them inapropriate and unfounded (I dont think, I had any beef or strugle with you so far). Furthemore, I do not even know, what u mean by map clicker, but that probably doesn't even matter here.

Anyway, being called lucky has became some local tradition, I hear that quite often. Luck is part of this game, but we all should agree, luck itself cannot be essential factor for having consistent results, or can be? ...(no... of course can't and isn't.)

 

But what i find really odd, that you mention me in context of "knowing something u don't" (and other stuff), but there are players with better results (guys with over 210 sections destroyed - I have never made managed to get so many) then me - how you are not questioning their ways..? Just wondering.

 

@ Spider000

Hey man!!! :honoring:

It looks like I owe you some explanations:

  1. First, in the previous stage of the event we did meet while flying german heavies. After I took you down 2 times in the same battle you started to complain in chat that I am "channeling you " and I have "tunel vision on you". That is not true. It just happened that you were the closest target in 2 occasions while I was approaching a sector, so I went for it. Nothing personal. I was not focused on you, I was focused on the event requirements, as usual. The fact that you initiated a series of accusations in chat, focused at me just because I was doing my job for myself and for my team left a bitter taste because that was the last thing I would have expected from you, someone I was really looking up to as inspiration. Thus I took the liberty of calling you a "whiner", a term that in WG games is used by players to describe other players that complain about the unfolding of the game by blaming it on somebody in their own or enemy team when it is not the case. It was never meant as an insult just a description of your behavior in that circumstance that I just described. Coming from you I felt disappointed. Because as an aspiring player in competitiveness, I look up to players like you, with good results and solid consistency in results over long term. All aspiring players relate themselves to the best players. So, in a way, you can call me a fan of yours, someone who admires your results and understands the work behind them. That being said I think it is more than obvious to anyone that I could not possibly feel any need to throw insults your way. 
  2. Map clickers. By this term I refer to the people who spam the map with their clicks thinking that will change the course of events in battles. This does not include you. It was just a mention of what I dislike in the game in terms of players' behavior. With no relation to you whatsoever.
  3. The mention of things you do know and the rest of us don't was aimed at your knowledge of the game, at your ability to deliver consistent results. I was hoping someone with your experience would have tips to spare for those who are struggling to do better. No insult intended. Not that it could be mistaken for an insult, but for the sake of clarity.

 

As for other players who get higher record scores, I do not need to question because I have seen some situations that could explain it and that confirm my theory that MM and balanced teams could make a huge difference. In essence it is a matter of luck. If you get a well balanced game then you have better chances at fulfilling your role and getting more of that battle. It happened to me once in 3 days and I only scored 203 sectors because a couple of people in the enemy team failed at the end and we won earlier than expected. A few minutes more and I could have reached around 240 sectors. But I only had one such opportunity in 3 days. Practically only one good battle out of more than 100 battles. That is less than 1% in terms of fun I had with this stage of the event.

 

Now let's see how one can make his own luck. In one battle I was teamed with one other player from WRE flying a bomber while in the opposing team there were two players from the same clan in a flight, one flying a bomber and the other flying a F86. After a couple of minutes or so while I had reached in excess of 6000 personal points the enemy F86 only had about 1000 pp, because all he did in that time was to search for me. So I was targeted all the game and ended up with about 60 sectors destroyed while my team mate from that clan made a nice score and the enemy WRE bomber scored in excess of 230 sectors. Next battle I was also the only target of that F86 because, as Gratius graciously admitted himself I was "the greatest menace". To whom? To his flight bomber or to the bomber in my team who was in the same clan as he was? So my question is: why is WG allowing players from same clan in enemy teams during events if they can favor each other, and thus breaking the sense of the battle and the meaning of the word "enemy"?

 

Another battle. Battle starts and I rush to nearest sector to bomb. I do so and then I put the nose up and start to climb back up while bombs reload. At that moment I hear salvos hitting my plane. As bullets hit I check the map for foes and I look back searching for the red dot shooting at me. There was no enemy in sight. There was however a  "friendly" teammate in a ground attacker shooting desperately at me while also struggling to gain altitude. His name is _SN00PY_  ,I think. I asked myself why he would shoot at me and I assumed that he had no more targets for himself as the sector was quick capped and in frustration, maybe, he decided to shoot at me. Maybe he didn't know about the event. I report him for damage to allies and I move on with my task. Next battle he is in a fighter or multirole fighter, in the same team, and he chases me all the map to shoot at me. Third battle the same I think. Now my question is why does WG allow during events players that are reported for damage to allies to be in the same team with the people they shot at? I asked all players to report him. One guy asked why. I told him what happened and then this snoopy guy said that I bombed him. Next battle he was finally in the enemy team chasing me and only me yet again. I had him fed to my rear gunner at last. And I did not blame him for tunnel vision on me. :)

 

Now after all these that I had to endure and many others, not to mention the third week of the never ending flu and sneeze salvos and coughs (let me see you trying to hit anything while you sneeze or cough) I still hope to place in worst case scenario in top 15 for perseverance. I actually expect to place better than that but one is free to dream, isn't he?

Where do you expect to place yourselves guys?

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Such a joy to see a coherent and well written post. :honoring::medal:

(carry on, just felt the need to comment on this)


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Thank you.

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View PostCaptainAim, on 14 October 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

(...)

 

Now let's see how one can make his own luck. In one battle I was teamed with one other player from WRE flying a bomber while in the opposing team there were two players from the same clan in a flight, one flying a bomber and the other flying a F86. After a couple of minutes or so while I had reached in excess of 6000 personal points the enemy F86 only had about 1000 pp, because all he did in that time was to search for me. So I was targeted all the game and ended up with about 60 sectors destroyed while my team mate from that clan made a nice score and the enemy WRE bomber scored in excess of 230 sectors. Next battle I was also the only target of that F86 because, as Gratius graciously admitted himself I was "the greatest menace". To whom? To his flight bomber or to the bomber in my team who was in the same clan as he was? So my question is: why is WG allowing players from same clan in enemy teams during events if they can favor each other, and thus breaking the sense of the battle and the meaning of the word "enemy"?

(...)

 

I was flying yesterday with Invictus Shadow (he was on F86 trying to specialize it). I do not think you are talking about us this time because my best score on EF131 was sth about 180 sectors and Invictus was doing his work pretty well. There were a lot of crazy battles this weekend and I'm curious about the results. Many times we were fighting with our clan members on the other side and everybody tried to make a good flight. It was even better to get good and competitive opponents (like Mitragin, Spider or other pro bomber specialists) because your chances to destroy more sections of ground targets were higher than flying with newbies... 


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View PostCaptainAim, on 14 October 2019 - 11:41 AM, said:

Where do you expect to place yourselves guys?

 

With an average of about 80/90 I doubt I will even make the list ...

Saw so many pilots making scores of 160-200.

 

View PostCaptainAim, on 14 October 2019 - 11:41 AM, said:

So my question is: why is WG allowing players from same clan in enemy teams during events if they can favor each other, 

 

Matchmaker can not even balance decently on plane types, flights, specialists etc ... and you want them to take clans into account ?! :amazed:

 


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Well, that issue with unnamed snoopy in GAA could wery well start with you bombing him, without noticing. It could be pretty frustrating. Not that it is good excuse for such behaviour, but not everybody has the nerves of steel, some have the nerves the opposite of steel (no idea what that would be)


 


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View PostRenwor, on 14 October 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:

Well, that issue with unnamed snoopy in GAA could wery well start with you bombing him, without noticing. It could be pretty frustrating. Not that it is good excuse for such behaviour, but not everybody has the nerves of steel, some have the nerves the opposite of steel (no idea what that would be)

 

And some could think that somebody owning a tier 10  ground attacker would know not to fly low over a target that a tier 10 bomber just flew over in front of you. He could see me for sure. He just didn't care. And his health was pretty much intact as far as I can remember. I think he was just took by surprise to see the target explode in front of him. Got pissed because I stole his "precious" target most likely.

And yes, some people are soo jumpy. Though I can't blame them. Maybe he had a bad day, or a bad week or a bad life altogether. I was not upset that it happened I was upset that it happened during the event. Multiple times. So much hate... the poor guy. 

 

 

View PostGonerNL, on 14 October 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

 

With an average of about 80/90 I doubt I will even make the list ...

Saw so many pilots making scores of 160-200.

 

It depends how many battles they played. On the other hand the event had moments when it was over populated by bombers. I do not remember seeing 3 bombers  per team before.


 

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Hello mates!

Here are some of my experiences from the event.. it was a bit surreal to say the least and the dynamics of the game were majorly skewed during it.

I met most of you in the skies which was mostly good experience, for which I thank you!

 

I initially started with Pe-2 and the "plan" was to go for perseverance with it. After 26 battles with it, which was my Friday evening, I figured out that this was a mistake. Simply the WG weekend missions 50 kills for a slot had a requirement of tier 6+ and what happens is Pe-2 was bottom tier 80%-ish of the time. Being bottom tier during this event was detrimental because higher tier ground targets have more health and you end up destroying less of them.

 

Then I switched to German planes and played mostly with EF-131 and secondly Do217.. where I found way more specialized t10 bombers then I expected. I tried all sorts of tactics from hyper aggressive to completely illogical, but the game never really clicked so any chance of top mastery was lost on this. There was chance, but there was always something going wrong all the time. Hence my best result was in the Do217.

I did use the Do217 to use up some of the gold ammo I had accumulated from missions so far. Unlike the EF131, Do217 does benefit from it, though it helped my "average"(I guess) my best scores were not with gold ammo enabled.

As I said for good results things needs to "click" and it never did for me. I had a bunch of good plays with potential, but that potential did not materialize.

 

Now bots and cockblockers were quite annoying, but not an actual major problem. I was chased through half the map by them many times over mostly on my route to my next target and on reload, but they did hurt my score also in some key moments.

 

I was also shot down by an ally in HF, that then even played bombers himself and engaged in bomber shooting with his bomber.... now that level of pettiness I did not expect, but there you have it.

 

Here are the results for German planes from my spreadsheet (overall is off by a few points because of game crashes)

10 best score: 1338
10 best average: 133,8
   
   
total: 10107
battles: 120
total average: 84

 

PS. none of my bombers is specialized even after the event ended.

 

View PostCaptainAim, on 14 October 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

It depends how many battles they played. On the other hand the event had moments when it was over populated by bombers. I do not remember seeing 3 bombers  per team before.

I was in several battles with 7 EF-131s (4 vs 3). It was a mess.

 


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View Postdrakkanax, on 14 October 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

PS. none of my bombers is specialized even after the event ended.

 

Same here.

Specializing bombers is horrible with all those gunner kills.

I started with divebombing in Pe-2 M-82 and Tu-2 but quickly noticed that with their scores I would never make it. So I switched to the Su-10 (80% bargain in some event) and tried altitude bombing. Some others (Blitzhagel, Angelmichel) saw me struggling and said I should try low level bombing. Su-10 can not really divebomb so I had to experiment a bit with shallow dives which worked OK as long as half the other planes in battle were not bombers too.

Still, not good enough for rewards I guess ... but at least I got 21 of 25 needed gunner kills.



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The gunner bit really depends on the plane : in the EF I had it completed while the bombing requirements was still below 25 %

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Su-10 is the same, almost got the gunner kills but nowhere near the needed capture points :-(

 


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