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CaptainAim #41 Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:38 AM

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I selected another plane, went into a battle then when it was over I had 2 planes locked in battle. So I had to restart.

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GonerNL #42 Posted 08 November 2019 - 03:53 PM

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Might as well quit right now ... with matchmaker dealing me battles that last 4 minutes there's no way to get a decent score, not even in a win.

deaxter_hero #43 Posted 08 November 2019 - 04:04 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 08 November 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

First battle, I get an "Awaiting players..." screen which stays on for minutes then I get kicked out and returned to the hangar with the message that my plane is cought in battle and it will return when the battle ends. Now I would like to ask why did my plane ventured into battle without me?

The same thing happened to me the day before yesterday. The plane got stuck for longer than game duration of 12 minutes and so i restarted the game with clearing the cache and when I got back it was OK. I am not sure whether that missed game counted as loss or victory or nothing.


 


RoyalFlyingCorps #44 Posted 08 November 2019 - 04:13 PM

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It does count.  This is a very old, intermittent bug that personally I haven’t seen for a while.  It’s useful to know it’s still in existence.

Brutaly #45 Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:09 PM

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View PostRoyalFlyingCorps, on 07 November 2019 - 10:20 PM, said:

A Winged Legend Class 1 (5 chevron) battle in the XF-85 Goblin a few moments ago produced 560 capture points (14,220 personal points).

 

 This is what i dont get. Capture points in the screenie are 320 and you say 560. Can you explain the 560 figure to me please?

EDIT Never mind, i just realized what to look for. Thank you for the help.

 

EDIT again: Follow up, just flew a mission and got 600 points. 300 for attacking and 300 for defending, How come you have "different" capture points received. 320 and 560?


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CaptainAim #46 Posted 08 November 2019 - 08:36 PM

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320 is max for top screen, below is the full figure. :) you get max cap points 320 for your role, but the full real number is 560 which does not fit above.

andrew3142 #47 Posted 08 November 2019 - 08:39 PM

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View PostBrutaly, on 08 November 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

 This is what i dont get. Capture points in the screenie are 320 and you say 560. Can you explain the 560 figure to me please?

EDIT Never mind, i just realized what to look for. Thank you for the help.

 

EDIT again: Follow up, just flew a mission and got 600 points. 300 for attacking and 300 for defending, How come you have "different" capture points received. 320 and 560?


Just checking but you do realise that the Goblin is not part of the event right?

(Only Heavy Fighters count)

 

 



Brutaly #48 Posted 08 November 2019 - 08:58 PM

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Dont understand this, will have to play bit more and figure this out..... Need those supplies :-)

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Brutaly #49 Posted 08 November 2019 - 09:02 PM

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View Postandrew3142, on 08 November 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:


Just checking but you do realise that the Goblin is not part of the event right?

(Only Heavy Fighters count)

 

 

yepp i do understand, what i dont understand is what i am supposed to max out.



CaptainAim #50 Posted 08 November 2019 - 09:18 PM

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the TOTAL capture points. make as many per battle as possible.

Brutaly #51 Posted 08 November 2019 - 09:42 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 08 November 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

the TOTAL capture points. make as many per battle as possible.

ok, check the pic above that i quoted. There is 320 capture points in big and bold and 560 in smaller letters in thet specific pic. In one of the above posts it was stated that 320 is max for the top screen (big and bold?).

I just got 440 in the big and bold and 440 in the smaller font. How can the 320 and 560 differ. I have never seen it do that when i play but have not paid much attention.



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it depends what type of plane you made 440 with. there are some little lines/arches that fill too. 5 for each category. not sure but I assume there is a link between number of arches and number of chevrons in battle to get class 1. For the event you only need capture points, the total value, the one displayed below.

 

What bothers me is that I suck a lot in heavies it seems, especially during the event. Previously I used to make better cp scores. The human factor is also a huge variable which adds to the lack of consistent results.


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Brutaly #53 Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:40 PM

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ok, thanks for helping me out. I just made rank 5 om my XF90 and had 440 points in both fields. I dont know what make out it.
 

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View PostBrutaly, on 08 November 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

ok, check the pic above that i quoted. There is 320 capture points in big and bold and 560 in smaller letters in thet specific pic. In one of the above posts it was stated that 320 is max for the top screen (big and bold?).

I just got 440 in the big and bold and 440 in the smaller font. How can the 320 and 560 differ. I have never seen it do that when i play but have not paid much attention.

The 320 in big and bold shows (somewhat confusingly) the amount of cap points that got you to 5th grade of aircraft proficiency for cap points received. Just ignore that - what the event is about is the 560 capture points in smaller letters, saying "Capture points received".


 


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View Postraketak_, on 05 November 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

I think points are:

Air defense airplanes  - this sector protecting DAA (white and red) - 40 points for destroy

Red enemy planes during attack - 60 points

Red enemy planes during defense - 40 points

For ground targets this is from 15 to 80, depend on target

@Blindfold, could you confirm the above mentioned and also post here the overview of how many capture points we receive for destroying what kind of ground target pls?


 


clovisbxl #56 Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:46 PM

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Is it normal that I'm just unable to win any party with this KI-94-1? I think I never saw plane like that before...

 



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If you mean "I am flying the Ki-94-I and I seem unable to win in it" then, yes, that is perfectly normal.  It's one of the worst aircraft in the game.  Try to kill bombers, try to keep it very fast, as high as you can and above all do not try turning in it!



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View Postclovisbxl, on 08 November 2019 - 10:46 PM, said:

Is it normal that I'm just unable to win any party with this KI-94-1? I think I never saw plane like that before...

 

It is difficult plane for newcomers because it is good only in one specific role. This plane teaches you actually the essence of heavy fighters´ way, namely horizontal Boom and Zoom and how to obtain best Heavy Aircraft Type Grade rating. It teaches you to look actively at minimap. The guns behave well only against Attack Aircraft (AA) and Bombers. So you fly fast in straight lines, you look at minimap and where you see enemy AAs and bombers trying to cap (or where you predict they will go like Mining Plant close to enemy spawn), you go there and kill them. And drop bomb on ground targets while hunting AAs. Finish off half damaged ground targets after enemy AAs damage it with your bomb. When you see light fighter vectoring towards you, you turn head on and either kill it or speed right by and gain distance. NEVER TURN FIGHT. Specializing the plane helps a lot, gun accuracy and speed pilot skills and equipment are important.   


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View Postdeaxter_hero, on 09 November 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

It is difficult plane for newcomers because it is good only in one specific role. 

Specializing the plane helps a lot, gun accuracy and speed pilot skills and equipment are important.   

 

Well... I'm indeed a newcomer, I only started during the beta of this game ;)

The beaufighter is one of the plane I play more and I'm quite used to play with both BF110E and C6... so I think I a a small idea about what is a boom and zoom approach ;)

Of course dogfighting is not the best way to use this plane !

 

Clearly yes, it is unspecialized, as I won it in a crate a long time ago, tried it once in the past (thinking it was bad after first impression), then only really started yesterday with it. The pilot is not "stock".

 

I just noticed that I'm winning without any problem with my (specialized) BF110E, without any problem with my (unspecialized yesterday but now specialized) KI-45, but... 

Even playing quite decently with this basic KI-94-1 for a around one hour, doing several parties with >300 conquest points for this event, > 10k personal points, finishing first of the team several time, it was just impossible to win a single party! 

I know sometime the match making is not good for a period but when I alternate with another plane, I win, then coming back to this ki-94-1, I loose again !

About the plane itself, it is burning all the time, when I kill a plane, I have the feeling it is an accident so the level of confidence is not really high...

 

I note one point, there is a apparently a consensus to say this plane is just not good, so I feel a little bit better :)



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View Postdeaxter_hero, on 09 November 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

It is difficult plane for newcomers because it is good only in one specific role. This plane teaches you actually the essence of heavy fighters ...

You have described it pretty well, there is no point I could disagree, but lets emphasize one aspect of this issue.

 

This tactical aproach, of destroying GAAs and Bombers can be performed with any other heavy (and it can be done even more effectively), while Ki-94-I cannot execute another actions, that other heavies could. I mean, there is very specific way, how to play it (that u have described above), but even in this role it is not excelent, just average at best.

 

And that's why this plane is considered terrible.






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