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GonerNL #61 Posted 26 November 2019 - 11:19 AM

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Sure, there was lag for a short time on all servers. But after that I haven't noticed it ... craphappens, but the bugs and bots are a real, lasting problem. And it doesn't look like they will be fixed in the near future.

drakkanax #62 Posted 26 November 2019 - 11:23 AM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 26 November 2019 - 11:08 AM, said:

 

So you expect to never go down during a battle? Or you think bots are just to feed your kill count? Wouldn't you like the "uber bot" to give you a hand when you are outnumbered and heavily outgunned?

That's not what I said at all. I expect not to be killed with impossible odds too often in the same way I don't win the lottery twice a day. Odds are odds, cheats are not. Outside of that the harder/better playing the bots the better. Though I recognize that for new players that may be too much and it needs to be accounted for. i.e. easy bots are needed too at low tiers for sure. 

 

View PostCaptainAim, on 26 November 2019 - 11:08 AM, said:

There have been engagements with humans where we used to spin in circles for minutes and nobody stepped in to break the circle.  

That's exactly why I mentioned the Wingman interface. You call a command and get a response from a bot that can't(or won't) do anything about it. I've turned for minutes in fights with multiple bots just flying close by and ignoring F4/F7 which they acknowledged.

 


Edited by drakkanax, 26 November 2019 - 11:24 AM.


CaptainAim #63 Posted 26 November 2019 - 11:25 AM

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I haven't noticed a real problem with the bots yet, apart that when called in, a bot from the other side of the map will answer even if it is engaged by multiple enemies, while bots in near vicinity may ignore you.

Apart from that no bots issues here. Maybe improving your battle approach from a strategic point of view may help with the "bot issue".



CaptainAim #64 Posted 26 November 2019 - 11:34 AM

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View Postdrakkanax, on 26 November 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

That's not what I said at all. I expect not to be killed with impossible odds too often in the same way I don't win the lottery twice a day. Odds are odds, cheats are not. Outside of that the harder/better playing the bots the better. Though I recognize that for new players that may be too much and it needs to be accounted for. i.e. easy bots are needed too at low tiers for sure. 

 

That's exactly why I mentioned the Wingman interface. You call a command and get a response from a bot that can't(or won't) do anything about it. I've turned for minutes in fights with multiple bots just flying close by and ignoring F4/F7 which they acknowledged.

 

They are bots so sort of terminators with wings, they are supposed to be deadly accurate I guess.  :)

 

And yes, I have thought about a wingman feature too, where you could select your own wingman bot from the planes and pilots you have in hangar. But that would be possible for all. Good things: a 50% bot ratio will be preserved + you get someboty to watch your back. Bad thing: when your team goes down, you will have to face groups of player + wingman instead of individual players /  bots. So it could create more problems than solve for most. It could become a hated feature and scare people away. Of course it could be tailored to be both fun, balanced and helpful but even then it won't please everybody and for sure it will displease a lot people who will start crying about it. That is why I decided not to speak my mind or suggest such a feature in the first place. That would need a lot of fine tuning , balancing work before it would go live.



blindfoId #65 Posted 26 November 2019 - 12:19 PM

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I'd like to remind you that this thread is dedicated to the Class Wars Events, there's a separate forum section for suggestions and other discussions. Please follow the forum rules when posting and avoid off-topic. 

drakkanax #66 Posted 26 November 2019 - 12:30 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 26 November 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

And yes, I have thought about a wingman feature too, where you could select your own wingman bot from the planes and pilots you have in hangar. 

That's not what I meant at all. wingman interface in those games I mentioned works similar to what WG tried to do with F2/3, F4/7 commands. Except it actually works. The reason it works is because you have two stage interface. For example you have two modes send someone to do something(guard/engage etc.). OR you send the first AVAILABLE(unassigned/unengaged) to do something. Adding this "who's available" feature and then being able to call command will solve the problem with wrong bots acknowledging that can't do anything. ... and also will allow you to send them all to multiple tasks depending on implementation. Point is you can make sense and therefore make decisions. Right now  F2/3 works at beginning of battle only and F4/7 work at random.

 

P.S. On the event.. the reason we're commenting these issues in the first place is because these events stress test some of the game features so some problems do become more visible. 


Edited by drakkanax, 26 November 2019 - 12:32 PM.


blindfoId #67 Posted 26 November 2019 - 01:12 PM

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View Postdrakkanax, on 26 November 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

 

P.S. On the event.. the reason we're commenting these issues in the first place is because these events stress test some of the game features so some problems do become more visible. 

 

And you are welcome to discuss them in other threads. This thread is dedicated to the event itself, please avoid unrelated topics. It's a verbal warning only but I would really appreciate your following the rules. 



IngoIf #68 Posted 26 November 2019 - 01:14 PM

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Wann denken sie,haben sie die Ergebnisse?



CaptainAim #69 Posted 26 November 2019 - 01:39 PM

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View PostIngoIf, on 26 November 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

Wann denken sie,haben sie die Ergebnisse?

Tomorrow or thursday a couple of hours after lunch.


Edited by CaptainAim, 26 November 2019 - 01:40 PM.


blindfoId #70 Posted 28 November 2019 - 10:48 AM

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Greetings pilots,

 

Sincere thanks for participating in the final battle of the Fall Campaign! We are happy to announce the winners of Class Wars. Your deserved rewards for the last stage will soon arrive at your accounts, and the total number of collected chevrons is already published in the article.

 

Today I'll create a thread where you can choose your final prize for participating in the campaign if it costs fewer chevrons than you've earned.

 

Fighters

Mastery

Spoiler

 

Perseverance

Spoiler

 

Ground Attackers and Bombers

Mastery

Spoiler

 

Perseverance

Spoiler

 

Good hunting!



rheaghorn #71 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:03 AM

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GG all pilots

 

and thanks IRON's pilots : 

 

View PostblindfoId, on 28 November 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

(...)

Fighters

Mastery

 

 

 

Ground Attackers and Bombers

 

Perseverance
 

 


Edited by rheaghorn, 28 November 2019 - 11:04 AM.


CaptainAim #72 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:34 AM

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Congrats all!

And Press_2 I heard somebody in a heavy at tier 8 was wrecking havoc. I figured it had to be you.



InVictuS_ShaDoW #73 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:39 AM

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Congratulations to everyone!

Especially for colleagues from the "W_R_E" clan
(player position)

(12) - Gratius

(7) - rakanishu1984

(16) - undead82
(4) - HOLYMAN__
(9) - Regis_Sawyer
(5) - InVictuS_ShaDoW
(10) - prawiejakzywiec666

 

Good job gentlemen!

 


Edited by InVictuS_ShaDoW, 28 November 2019 - 11:57 AM.


zen_monk_ #74 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:42 AM

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Kudos to all :honoring:
 


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PRESS_2_for_Skill #75 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:43 AM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 28 November 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Congrats all!

And Press_2 I heard somebody in a heavy at tier 8 was wrecking havoc. I figured it had to be you.

Who else it can be XD

It is on postal monkey channel

 


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GonerNL #76 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:44 AM

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Hey zen, you got the P-36 ?? 

Post a pic once you get it, I'm really curious about it's special camo.



CaptainAim #77 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:47 AM

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View PostblindfoId, on 28 November 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

Your deserved rewards for the last stage will soon arrive at your accounts, and the total number of collected chevrons is already published in the article.

 

Just the rewards for the last stage? What about the prizes for the overall Campaign?



CaptainAim #78 Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:50 AM

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View PostPRESS_2_for_Skill, on 28 November 2019 - 01:43 PM, said:

Who else it can be XD

 

Aah you're right, I didn't think about it that way.



GonerNL #79 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:03 PM

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View PostCaptainAim, on 28 November 2019 - 12:47 PM, said:

Just the rewards for the last stage? What about the prizes for the overall Campaign?

 

They will probably wait since they will open a thread for pilots who want a plane lower than the one they are awarded.



prawiejakzywiec666 #80 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:03 PM

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Congrats to all the players!

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