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moschish #1 Posted 06 January 2020 - 07:20 PM

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Hallo Warplanes-Freunde.

 

Warum kann man nur mit zwei Leuten in einer Rotte fliegen? Es ist doch gerade der Reiz dabei, mit mehreren zusammen gegen Gegner zu fliegen. Die Suchfunktion könnte man ändern. Das soll heißen, wenn ich in einer Rotte zu viert fliegen möchte, sucht das System Ähnliches als Gegner. In World of Warships geht das ja nu auch.

 

Wir haben einen Clan gegründet. Allerdings nur just for fun. Was bringt mir der Clan in World of Warplanes? Ich konnte nichts finden? Bei Worships bekommt ja nu jeder Spieler etwas mehr von hier und da... Ein Vorschlag wäre, sich einen Hangar zu bauen. Oder die Clanmitglieder mit mehr Credits usw... zu belohnen, auch wenn Sie alleine fliegen. Und warum muß man extra zahlen um ein eigenes Wappen zu bilden, wenn der Clan eh nichts bringt?

 

Vorab danke.



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Yes. It might be interesting if they expanded the "Flight" option to allow larger groups to fly together. We would have to accept longer wait times though as a team with a flight of 4 or 6 flying against a team with no flights at all would be an unfair advantage.

 

However - it would still be possible to create training room combat where friends can play in larger groups together either against each other or with a mix of bots.

This can be enhanced by also having voice chat via discord etc.



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Whilst it might be interesting, it would also seriously unbalance games.  Flights of two are bad enough if they are in well-matched aircraft and up against countering bot, rather than human, aircraft.

There is a German language forum.  Probably it would be better not to write in German in this English language forum.

0berhessen #4 Posted 07 January 2020 - 07:16 AM

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View Postmoschish, on 06 January 2020 - 07:20 PM, said:

Hallo Warplanes-Freunde.

 

Warum kann man nur mit zwei Leuten in einer Rotte fliegen? Es ist doch gerade der Reiz dabei, mit mehreren zusammen gegen Gegner zu fliegen. Die Suchfunktion könnte man ändern. Das soll heißen, wenn ich in einer Rotte zu viert fliegen möchte, sucht das System Ähnliches als Gegner. In World of Warships geht das ja nu auch.

 

Wir haben einen Clan gegründet. Allerdings nur just for fun. Was bringt mir der Clan in World of Warplanes? Ich konnte nichts finden? Bei Worships bekommt ja nu jeder Spieler etwas mehr von hier und da... Ein Vorschlag wäre, sich einen Hangar zu bauen. Oder die Clanmitglieder mit mehr Credits usw... zu belohnen, auch wenn Sie alleine fliegen. Und warum muß man extra zahlen um ein eigenes Wappen zu bilden, wenn der Clan eh nichts bringt?

 

Vorab danke.


First of all just a reminder you posted your question in the english part of the Forum, aber die Antwort auf Deine Fragen gibts auf deutsch:

Mehr als 2 Leute in einer Rotte würden ganz klar das Spiel dominieren, eine Rotte aus 2 guten Piloten ist bereits in der Lage entscheidend auf den Spielverlauf einzuwirken.

Das das System bei Rotten mit mehr als 2 Spielern entsprechende Gegner finden würde halte ich bei der derzeitigen Spieleranzahl für nicht praktikabel, da es zu unangnehm langen Wartezeiten führen würde.

Denn man muss bedenken das ja auch die richtige Tierstufe und eine faire Flugzeugverteilung gewährleistet ist.

 

Das einzige was Clans derzeit bei WOWP bringen ist das mögliche leichte finden von Rottenpartnern und ein schickes Clanlogo, sonst gibt es leider keine weiteren Vorteile.

Bein unserem Clan und einigen anderen anderen gibt es die Möglichkeit sich über Teamspeak oder Discord zu unterhalten und im Gefecht abzusprechen.

 

More than 2 people in a group would clearly dominate the game, a team of 2 good pilots is already able to have a decisive influence on the course of the battle.

I do not think that the system would find suitable opponents with more than 2 players in teams with the current number of players in game, as it would lead to unacceptably long waiting times.
Because you have to consider that the right tier level and a fair aircraft distribution is guaranteed.

The only thing that clans currently bring to WOWP is the easy finding of team partners and a chic clan logo, otherwise there are no other advantages.

With our clan and some other others there is the possibility to use Teamspeak or Discord and to discuss in battle.

 

Edited by 0berhessen, 07 January 2020 - 07:17 AM.

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maxram68 #5 Posted 07 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

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In the "old days" - in 1.something and before bots appeared - it was actually possible to make a team of 3.

Battles were often ridiculously unbalanced, even compared to what some players whine about today - especially if MM in one of the usual brainfarts pitched 3 random players against such a flight.

 

Some of those teams of 3 were tryhards that could be dealt with, but regardless of the quality of the team of 3 it was always a challenge.

Some players exploited the system so much that more and more players demanded the removal of teams of 3, - or alternatively forcing MM to pitch them another team of 3.

...WG took action and removed 3-man teams...

 

Again: this was before bots appeared - many battles were typically 7 vs. 7 or similar, and queue times were often dreadful (at least you really got to KNOW people in your clan...).

...so a team of 3 had a huuuuge impact on the outcome, which I'm sure will be the case again - bots or not - unless MM can actually "respect" that teams of 3 should be matches against a team of exactly same size and quality...

 

 



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View Postmaxram68, on 07 January 2020 - 04:56 PM, said:

In the "old days" - in 1.something and before bots appeared - it was actually possible to make a team of 3.

Battles were often ridiculously unbalanced, even compared to what some players whine about today - especially if MM in one of the usual brainfarts pitched 3 random players against such a flight.

 

Often? I would say always.

W/L was simply a matter of are those three in your team or not.

If they are in yours you'll win but with a kill or two if lucky - they've obliterated all else. If in the opposing team, you basically waited a minute for a death from above, and then you spend 7-8 minutes staring at the monitor. No respawns. And then wait 10-15 minutes in queue... no wonder the 1.x died.

 

"Good old days" indeed.

 

Maybe that's why I'm contended with the gameplay today. Compared to those idiotic versions from Alpha to 1.5~1.6 when I left, this is pure joy in gaming.


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maxram68 #7 Posted 07 January 2020 - 09:11 PM

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View Postzen_monk_, on 07 January 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

 

Often? I would say always.

W/L was simply a matter of are those three in your team or not.

If they are in yours you'll win but with a kill or two if lucky - they've obliterated all else. If in the opposing team, you basically waited a minute for a death from above, and then you spend 7-8 minutes staring at the monitor. No respawns. And then wait 10-15 minutes in queue... no wonder the 1.x died.

 

"Good old days" indeed.

 

 

 

Harsh, but certainly agree with almost all you wrote about the "good" old days :)

...and yes: I've also experienced to get completely eradicated after a few minutes by a rape-train manned by rather good players, - or perhaps just the occasional bunch of pathetic exploiters.

...ofc. after waiting 5+ minutes to get into the goddamned battle (with 20-30 minutes being normal on US-server iirc). 

 

IMHO no respawn option was - combined with the long queuetimes - a huge motivational factor to actually TRY and DO something no matter how dreadful a match looked "on paper" (lineup/pre-battle)...

Btw: Doing (or at least trying to do) something for the team should always be the case instead of what's seen a lot these days: whining about MM, quitting mid-battle and some kind of weird self-pity...

 

To be clear: I'm also OK with the current game, - even though SOME elements from 1.9 certainly would be welcome.

3-man flights is absolutely not one of them, for obvious reasons.

 



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Don't use the word "rape" in the context of a game, friend.  It's offensive to compare mildly irritating adverse circumstances in a game to one of the worst crimes, with physical injury and years of great psychological suffering, one person can inflict on another.




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