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[Olikia]

Hey,

I would like to ask what kind of skills, equipment and consumables would you recommend for this multi-role. I really like to fly it without bombs or rockets as pure interceptor. So far, I have been enjoying it even if it isn't part of the current meta.

Edited by Olikia, 01 April 2020 - 01:42 PM.

[apartclassic]

I say wait for zen_monk_ later in the day for good advice, the Jug is one of the loves of his life. Imho it depends on your playstyle on this plane, because you can go at least two ways ('pure' MRF with ordnance, or speed build - the N was the fastest propeller driven plane back in the days, game captures that rather well).

[GonerNL]

apartclassic, on 01 April 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

 the N was the fastest propeller driven plane back in the days, game captures that rather well).

 

Not in my experience ... the N is only marginally faster than other tier VII's and much less maneuverable, so anything can get your six before you bug out.

I still love it, beautiful plane.

[apartclassic]

GonerNL, on 01 April 2020 - 05:41 PM, said:

 

Not in my experience ... the N is only marginally faster than other tier VII's and much less maneuverable, so anything can get your six before you bug out.

I still love it, beautiful plane.

 

It is very fast without the ordnance (game's encyclopaedia gives a respectable 740km/h top speed and 900km/h max dive speed in such config - no equipment). Balance of the game hurts the Jug, because the plane was built for high-altitude speeds, and at lower altitudes it wasn't as effective; one can make it go very fast here, but being t7, it runs into jets quite often, and then prop vs jet differences start to play. When you start with a shallow dive and then zoom away within your optimum altitude, it's very hard to catch this one. Still, I wish it was modelled slightly different.

[zen_monk_]

Olikia, on 01 April 2020 - 02:42 PM, said:

 

 

DISCLAIMER:

I am just an Average Joe, not an ultimate expert in dogfights across all classes & planes. So whatever I will say take with a pinch of salt - above you have a true unicum who knows all there is to know about every aspect of this game. So what he says is the right answer, not mine. He will explain in details how to properly use the Jugs for capping, how efficient they still might be regardless of the dumbing down the game, if used properly. What he says stands, and that's it.

 

But I am an ultimate expert in enjoying the Jugs.

 

Bear in mind, enjoying one plane doesn't always equate to perform great stats wise. No. It is how much thrill you will have to fly, say, an iconic Thunderbolt or a Mustang or whatever fancies you, whatever can make you relive some battle you've seen on Viasat History or wherever. So to transfer it into Jugs:

 

- for a proper WoWP usage, you should be base-cap equipped, all ordnance for ground targets to combine with killing whites or reds over a cap. The straight forward 4 points should be Marksman I & Demolition Expert.

 

- but I fly them differently, as a pure air combat plane.  No ordnance - no no, you will not entice me to go down the deck to mess with better turners. I will fly high and use it as an extremely agile Heavy Fighter. Bear in mind, you have eight .50 cal. Dakka-dakka bliss. For that, 4 points should be Marksman I & Aerodynamic Expert (with Lightweight engine, of course). If you go on 6 points, add Battle Tested. If you make 1 more (now this will be controversial with some) drop Battle Tested and use 7 points for Marksman I + II & Aerodynamic Expert.

 

Use your Jug for what the genius Alexander Kartveli made it - a power fighter. You are a 1969 Dodge Charger in the world of 1964 Porsche 911's.

 

 

 

[atlasapl]

I haven't had this long, but it has been a revelation. I hated with a passion the P-47B. Despised the damned thing to hell and back. But I do want to play the tier 9 & 10.

Eventually I ground the 'N' out, and my god it feels so much better. I am not great in it, but it certainly feels a lot more enjoyable to play. I can see me happily keeping this one. Will have to think how I want to specialise it based on how I play it.

[zen_monk_]

...and if you want to truly enjoy, it has to look like this:

 

 

 

files

http://www.mediafire.../ThudN.zip/file

unzip into

:\World_of_Warplanes\res_mods\2.1.0.0\vehicles\airplanes\american\US42_P47N\

[unseen_strike]

zen_monk_, on 13 April 2020 - 07:59 PM, said:

...and if you want to truly enjoy, it has to look like this:

 

 

 

files

http://www.mediafire.../ThudN.zip/file

unzip into

:\World_of_Warplanes\res_mods\2.1.0.0\vehicles\airplanes\american\US42_P47N\

Wow, gj, mate 

[zen_monk_]

unseen_strike, on 14 April 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

Wow, gj, mate 

 

 

Hold my beer...

 

Spoiler

 

 

:\World_of_Warplanes\res_mods\2.1.0.0\vehicles\airplanes\american\US42_P47N\

http://www.mediafire...eenJug.zip/file

 

 

 

[GonerNL]

atlasapl, on 13 April 2020 - 07:07 PM, said:

Eventually I ground the 'N' out, and my god it feels so much better. 

 

Did you specialize it ?!

 

I got the XP-72 and F-84B, but still haven't specced the N.

For that you need a lot of air kills and well, it's hard ...

 

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Will have to think how I want to specialise it based on how I play it.

 

Oops, missed that. So also not specced yet ...

 

Edited by GonerNL, 14 April 2020 - 11:50 AM.

[zen_monk_]

You can perfectly enjoy the "N" like this. This is mine.

 

 

Speccing is kinda overrated.  Yes for highly competitive scenarios, unimportant for pure fun.

[GonerNL]

Almost same setup as mine.

I got the Uprated Engine and High-octane additive,

[zen_monk_]

Good, then you are set to go.

 

This is a basic recipe for flying a Jug, especially N, without the ordnance:

 

- download this proper skin

- start the game with only one intention - repeat after me: "I'm here only to have a good time, only to have a good time..."

- forget the stats and percentages and data and MM. Those nasty things live in a real world, in your company's evaluation sheets, bank invoices and stuff. Not here, in the game.

- use outside view much. Admire how majestic your Jug looks against this background, that mountain... relive some footage you saw on History, go back in time in your mind.

- kill 5 planes, you did well. Kill close to 10, woo hoo! More than 10, "man I rock!"

 

Never ever pay any attention to a deception called "win" or "lose". Nor on opponents the game threw at you. They are mere pixels on your screen, not brought there to infuse your mind with discontent but to be a canvas on which you can paint curves and dot dakka dakka patches with your metallic invasion-striped Jug (and go outside view again from all angles)

 

Joy or despair, win or lose, entertainment or discontent, adequate or inept teams... it's all in your mind. It's up to you to make it work, not on WG. They merely provided you the tools.

 

Go and fly and smile.

 

[Mariu]

I flew the 47 with ordnance. When you got the playstyle down you can greatly enjoy it. The Xp-72 feels like a nice update from the N.

 

What I found essential for the runs was booster system and engine cooling, to get more out of the boost. And then spam engine cooling as often as you can.

 

I also had Mary as my pilot in it. So my normal way of playing it was: Go high (2000m) turn fight heavies, if a bomber crosses your path go for this as well and then dive down. After releasing the ordnance boost back up to at least 1800m. And then look for other targets. Either repeat the heavy turn fighting or hunt damaged bombers/GAAs. Sometimes a other multi or fighter will cross you path, if they don't notice you dakka dakka them. If they notice you run, this is a good time for the engine cooling btw.

 

If you can bring the guns on target they will melt everything pretty quickly.

[ThinderChief]

atlasapl, on 13 April 2020 - 06:07 PM, said:

I haven't had this long, but it has been a revelation. I hated with a passion the P-47B. Despised the damned thing to hell and back. But I do want to play the tier 9 & 10.

Eventually I ground the 'N' out, and my god it feels so much better. I am not great in it, but it certainly feels a lot more enjoyable to play. I can see me happily keeping this one. Will have to think how I want to specialise it based on how I play it.

A bit of the same here. 

 

I returned to it today and with some more points in my pilot, I was able to obtain better results especially now that it is fully researched, I'm getting the hang of it little by little.

 

zen_monk_, on 14 April 2020 - 04:44 PM, said:

Good, then you are set to go.

 

This is a basic recipe for flying a Jug, especially N, without the ordnance:

 

- download this proper skin

About that, once downloaded, how do you apply it to the A-C?

Edited by ThinderChief, 01 May 2020 - 06:53 AM.

[zen_monk_]

ThinderChief, on 01 May 2020 - 07:51 AM, said:

 

About that, once downloaded, how do you apply it to the A-C?

 

When you see this under any of the skins...

:\World_of_Warplanes\res_mods\2.1.0.0\vehicles\airplanes\american\US42_P47N\

 

...that's a path where to put it. Meaning go to your :\World_of_Warplanes, then into your res_mods, then into 2.1.0.0 and there make directory vehicles. In here make dir airplanes, in there american, in there US42_P47N and in there unpack the skins.

[ThinderChief]

zen_monk_, on 01 May 2020 - 07:02 AM, said:

 

When you see this under any of the skins...

:\World_of_Warplanes\res_mods\2.1.0.0\vehicles\airplanes\american\US42_P47N\

 

...that's a path where to put it. Meaning go to your :\World_of_Warplanes, then into your res_mods, then into 2.1.0.0 and there make directory vehicles. In here make dir airplanes, in there american, in there US42_P47N and in there unpack the skins.

Thank you!

[atlasapl]

Ok, I skipped specialising this and moved onto the XP-72. Only had time for 1 game before work, but it feels just as good as the 'N' did to me. I am definitely going to enjoy it.

[Merkwuerdigliebe]

I like the Jug because it makes me forget how much WG seems to hate Langnasen Dora, and because... because... well just 'cause of it. 

 

Spoiler

 I do still perform better in the FW190D, tho

 

Edited by Merkwuerdigliebe, 13 May 2020 - 01:24 AM.

[GonerNL]

Picked it up again ... I still want to specialize.

But it's so hard ; going for speed and kills, so uprated engine + aerodynamics, high-octane and engine guru. Top speed boost 740km. The Fw-190A5 has that standard ... same for 109G, Me410 and 109Z. P-51d and F7F ... everybody can keep up with you.

 

they didn't nerf it, they castrated it.