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_GoGen_ #1 Posted 17 May 2020 - 06:42 AM

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There aren't many tutorials yet, so...

What's the general strategy to use heavy bombers?

 

Let's say I reach 3000m safe altitude in my low-tier one, now what? 

1. Should I go where everyone else is going, to nearest white/red zone and help make it turn blue than move on?

2. Should I go alone to some other, remote zone and try to make a mess there from above?

3. Which zone types (garrison, mines...) should I make a priority and which to avoid?

4. Should I target AA guns |^| first, the center complex or just carpet all "dots" on the way?

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andrew3142 #2 Posted 17 May 2020 - 07:25 AM

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There is some basic targeting/tactical advice that applies to all aircraft types here

http://forum.worldofwarplanes.eu/index.php?/topic/52876-essential-training-for-all-new-pilots/

 



Frateras #3 Posted 17 May 2020 - 10:39 AM

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I'm not a good bomber pilot, but I can tell you some strategies and you can check them out. 

First: in he low Tiers altitude 3000 m is enough before you start you should have 2000+ at least. 

It always starts with a long boost in order to win altitude as much as possible.

I was always looking for a base with lots of ground targets: first Mines, second garrisons, rocket bases or command centrals and airfields last.

Of course if you can throw single bombs take two for an AA station from an altitude of 3000 m so you almost can destroy four with one load of bombs

Then leave the base as long the bombs were reloaded. It's not good to wait for bombs and receive AA fire.

The approach must be perfect towards a line of targets - you can't do corrections. Try again to destroy some AAs but don't forget the bigger targets with lots of points and so on.

 

It's not good to loose a lot of time flying on one base to another. So the ideal base for you

is a lonely mine plant which you can bomb again and again but when you become successful you will have followers who capture the base soon and you can be glad, when you can throw all your bombs one time at least.

In T5 and 6 (and higher) there is no safe altitude any more for bombers.

 

recommended premiums: Blenheim T3, HE-111 T4. Tech Tree: American and German bombers T5 and 6. (It takes some time to skill the rear gunner. Press T for manual fire by player it works better then automatic fire) There is a fast loading Russian bomber line too. 


Edited by Frateras, 17 May 2020 - 11:06 AM.

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TotalEgal #4 Posted 18 May 2020 - 02:24 PM

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Sometimes it is good to use brain.

As everything also this game has some logical relations.

 

1. The higher you fly, the more inaccurate your bombing is

2. The larger the ground target, the more capture points you get

3. There are armored and unarmored ground targets. Bombs are more effective on armored ones

 

Now the question is, do you want to be an effective player or one of the many weekend bangers?

 

Just as a hint, in the time other players need to go up, you could have captured a base if you don't play like a scared cat



Frateras #5 Posted 19 May 2020 - 08:52 AM

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Yes, if the Reds are not coming ... with a bomber HF combination for example.

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dapprman #6 Posted 19 May 2020 - 09:54 AM

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My 2p as I've been playing bombers recently.  I've done German tier 4-8 before getting bored/frustrated then restarting the Do 17z for daily missions requiring a bomber.  I've also done the three USA bombers and while I still have the B-32 I grew bored and frustrated with that.  With Soviets I've just recently got the tier 9 and am still trying to work out how to use it - more on that later.

 

Basically each nation performs differently and as a result you use in different ways.

 

The German bombers are best at their white altitude.  Above that and they become just too inaccurate.  The first two tiers drop sticks of 4 bombs per button press, but too high and all four can miss your target.  Above that (up to tier 8) it's single bombs.  Their defence is quite poor and I found I was too often easy prey in the tier 7 and 8 crates, hence my stopping that line.

 

The US bombers work well in their upper yellow altitude, so fly high and take advantage of the relative safety.  These carpet bomb, 8 then 20 bombs per key press.  Accuracy is not an issue though they are very slow to reload.  Initially they have weak defence but this does become quite tough.  Don't get carried away in the B32 though as defensive damage is low - I made the mistake of going Quick Reflexes before Ballistic Expert with the gunner skills which would not have helped me.  Still you are quite easy meat for heavy fighters, and if up tiered , MR as well.

 

The Soviet bombers play differently depending on the level.

The first two, tiers 3 and 4, play like the German bombers, only slower, so expect to be shot down lots.

From tier 5-8 they are completely different though as they are fast and their bombing accuracy above ~1000 meters is so bad you'll land bombs on the next map.  Fly level at 930-990 (850-925 on the TU10), slam on the air brakes just before your target and you'll land the bomb on the spot.  You only carry four bombs but they have a quick reload.  Also the defensive fire they provide is heavy, though rear only.  The front guns are fixed, fired through the pilot station, not turret, can take out other planes, but do less damage than you might think - also can be useful for finishing off bombing targets.  For the gunner go Ballistics Expert after Armorer as that extra range can make a real difference in causing/forcing attackers to run from you. Oh and my preference for targets is to first take out the AAA, often this is enough to take out a sector even if you are the lone attacker, and also makes your survival chances  a lot higher.  One thing I've added in the edit - these planes fly a bit like heavy fighters and so can twist and turn to stay alive while the rear targets whittle down your attackers.

I'm now in the tier 9 crate and have to learn a new style, which I suspect is the same for the SU-10.  The low altitude does not become white until 1200 meters and even at that altitude the bombing accuracy is poor, plus you're now flying too quickly.  Also there are too many planes at tiers 8/9/10 that can melt you very quickly with their 30mm+ cannons.  Instead I've found by best successes so far have been to fly towards the top of the yellow altitude zone (you still cruise at over 500 kmh) and drop two bombs per target,  This seems to work though is also less efficient.  I see the Strengthened Hardpoints service item making a big difference if you specialise the plane (which you will with the tier 10 eventually).

 

My 2p based on my experiences.


Edited by dapprman, 19 May 2020 - 09:58 AM.


GonerNL #7 Posted 19 May 2020 - 11:45 AM

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View Postdapprman, on 19 May 2020 - 10:54 AM, said:

From tier 5-8 they are completely different though as they are fast and their bombing accuracy above ~1000 meters is so bad you'll land bombs on the next map.  Fly level at 930-990 (850-925 on the TU10), slam on the air brakes just before your target and you'll land the bomb on the spot.  

 

I almost never use the Pe-2's and Tu-2 for level bombing ; but dive-bombing is very effective !! And fun ! Level bombing I find boring ...

 






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