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Ziptop #61 Posted 08 June 2020 - 07:58 PM

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View PostRoyalFlyingCorps, on 08 June 2020 - 05:57 PM, said:

That's not really the case.  A well-built Bristol 146 is pretty much the equivalent of a Spitfire at tier 4; but it has to be well-built.  Ask Invader_From_Mars, who has a beast of a Bristol 146.,

 

That may well be the case for an aircraft customized and flown by an expert but this would be true of many aircraft.....including the 109 B

 

However we are discussing planes for new and casual players no?



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View PostZiptop, on 08 June 2020 - 08:58 PM, said

However we are discussing planes for new and casual players no?

 

No we are not. Casual players don't come on forum and ask for advice. We were discussing for new and serous players who wants to be next pro (also technically OP planes for daily missions). 


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View PostCheefCoach, on 08 June 2020 - 09:02 PM, said:

 

No we are not. Casual players don't come on forum and ask for advice. We were discussing for new and serous players who wants to be next pro (also technically OP planes for daily missions). 

 

To quote the Original Post

"I just realized that if you complete daily mission you can get tokens which then you can exchange for premium account which I can use in WoT."

 

For the second part, I will stand by the Tier 4 Bf 109 B - it's the OP aircraft of it's tier spread.



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View PostRoyalFlyingCorps, on 08 June 2020 - 04:57 PM, said:

That's not really the case.  A well-built Bristol 146 is pretty much the equivalent of a Spitfire at tier 4; but it has to be well-built.  Ask Invader_From_Mars, who has a beast of a Bristol 146.,


This.  Unspecialized, I strongly disliked my Bristol 146.  Specialized though, it's a whole other animal.  The extra equipment slots wake it up considerably.


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Bristol 146 is the spitfirest Spitfire that ever existed. Even as a simple unspecced one with mere 4 skill points pilot.

 

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I like that Japanese tier 4 Ki-43 with the twin cannons and 126% maneuverability, if you have the skills its unbeatable, but super delicate! 

 

for me as a newb i would say 

 

 

Tier 1 Russian

Tier 2 AR68 

Tier 3 anything they all suck 

Tier 4 Ki43

Tier 5 They all suck

Tier 6 XP55

Tier 7 They all suck

Tier 8 Vampire

Tier 9 Anything

Tier 10 Yak or F86

 

That's my onion and opinion

 

 


 

 

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^ Easily beaten by a Spitfire Ia with the Dunkirk pilot, the right equipment and less than 50% of its HP pool remaining.  The Ki-43-I simply can't get near to outturning it.

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View PostRoyalFlyingCorps, on 09 June 2020 - 08:47 AM, said:

^ Easily beaten by a Spitfire Ia with the Dunkirk pilot, the right equipment and less than 50% of its HP pool remaining.  The Ki-43-I simply can't get near to outturning it.

 

Never had a chance to try the Dunk Spit.

 

But then I dislike tiers 3-5-7 and barely play them, 

 

I wonder what would be the worst planes for newcomers, probably multiroles?


 

 

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View Postzen_monk_, on 09 June 2020 - 08:46 AM, said:

Bristol 146 is the spitfirest Spitfire that ever existed. Even as a simple unspecced one with mere 4 skill points pilot.

 

http://forum.worldof...666#entry607666

 

 

I think you are all making the mistake of viewing this through the lens of your own immense experience as pilots. 

 

Yes, it's an adequate fighter. It ranks 10th most maneuverable aircraft in my hangar at Tier4/Tier5 but there is more to low tier fights than simply turning. You have to get into a fight first and at Tier 5 that fight can be further away, moving fast and at greater altitude. 

A fully upgraded Bristol 146 (without any specialist equipment) isn't quite as fast as it needs to be and it's guns don't reach out quite far enough to make up for that. (It's also the 6th slowest aircraft in my hangar at T4/T5 spread)

 

So in summary it can't go as high or fast as most of the aircraft it will meet at T4/T5 which puts it closer to the deck where it's out turned by pretty much everything except the I-16's (and many of its opponents have a guns range advantage over it also) 

 

Your experience and resources available also might be blinkering you to the fact that specalizing and calibrating the equipment required to turn into a different beast doesn't come cheap so there would be a grind for silver and scrap parts before you even have that ability. 

 

In the meantime anybody flying a Bf 109 B will be getting results at T5 because of the better speed/altitude performance and longer reach of guns while also benefiting from the option to apply a 20% crew training paint which will translate into a better pilot faster. 

 

Now I don't doubt for a moment that a lot of you here can whip out a Bristol 146 and roflstomp an entire team, but that's not the point, new and casual players can't. Hell, I'm neither new, nor casual and while not the greatest pilot I'm far from green and I can't even make this plane work. I have flown this recently grinding up through the tiers on my US account and my recent experience informs me that this plane is NOT a keeper and I ditched it to free up hangar space as soon as I unlocked the Spit I. Indeed my game experience on that server largely matches the original posters requirements. I'm flying on a budget shoestring on that account and only keeping those planes at each tier that really shine. The Bristol 146 is not one of them. 



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View Postzen_monk_, on 09 June 2020 - 08:46 AM, said:

Bristol 146 is the spitfirest Spitfire that ever existed. Even as a simple unspecced one with mere 4 skill points pilot.

 

http://forum.worldof...666#entry607666

Cool result, but where Bristol fail is when you need to take care of some bomber or heavy fighter. Also it is easier to cap with Me 109B. 

 

So when condition are ideal, so are British fighters. When s**t hit the fan, you have more carrying potential with Me. 

 

But why I ultimately recommend Me line to new players is because once they learn that line, they can easily adjust to any other line. That doesn't apply for Briritish fighters. And Swift is s**t. 


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View PostCheefCoach, on 09 June 2020 - 03:30 PM, said:

Also it is easier to cap with Me 109B. 

 

So when condition are ideal, so are British fighters. When s**t hit the fan, you have more carrying potential with Me. 

What he said!!!



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View PostCheefCoach, on 09 June 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

And Swift is s**t. 

 

What absolutle pif...oh, hang on, you're right.



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My opinion, for all newbies:

 

Take the A6M1 and learn how to operate the planes. It is slow and has no altitude (the entire Mitsubishi line), but you learn how to make turns, that is, how to handle planes. You will learn to dodge and counter-attack.

 

Take the Bf 109B and learn to play without turning, with motor power, altitude and firepower.

 

Play many, but many games with them. They will not bore you.

 

Then compare the game type differences of those two planes and find your style. You will be prepared for any other aircraft of any kind of fighters.

 

My preferences, apart from the two mentioned:

 

T5 fighters:
American P40 Warhawk and no more. The P51 are ...
German Bf 109E and no more. The two-weapon style will confuse you (same for the Japanese Ki line).
Japanese A6M2 is good but not too much, the Spitfires will eat you if you are not very good and you have it prepared (sorry, but I don't like Ki).
Complete Spitfire line, of course.
The Soviets don't call me.

 

T6:
A6M5 Zero and Spitfire.

 

T7:
A7M is the best. And don't follow the line anymore. Note to keep in mind, slow and low altitude, some battles will despair you if the battles are in high altitude, it has happened to me. You will destroy a lot of Spitfires T6, T7 and T8.
Here I am going to make an exception: the I-220, if you know how to use it, is a meat grinder. Wonderful.

 

T8:
What am I going to tell you? You should already know more than me and surely, be a better pilot than me. And you may even think about developing multi-role, which I would not do because the only ones that I liked are the Corsair T6 and 7, without underestimating the Hurricane, and with heavy.

 

As a completely different topic, GAA:
It's hell to get to it, but the German T7 is a blast and the T10 is sure to love it.
The Soviets are "flatter", easier to carry and safer with their turret and armor.

 

 

And the bombers:
Playing to roll the dice, the Americans. You can do a lot or do nothing. Low altitude but great defense.
With many bombs and pulling two by two, the U.R.S.S. Like GAAs, good turrets.
The Germans needing much skill. You need to aim very well, but one bomb is destroy one target, because they have a greater dispersion. Very difficult but also very rewarding.

 

It is just an opinion.

 

Good luck.


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