18 replies to this topic

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

This is a serious bug...

 

If you enter the battle queue, you have the option to leave it, however if you actually do leave it, you will be put into a battle you cannot attend.

 

Your plane will still be in the hangar, and you can enter another battle.

 

Effectively, you are able to participate in two battles at the same time, with the same plane, but in one of them, you are not in control of your plane and look like a bot. Frankly, you are not even aware you're in it, until you see the notification feed.

 

This is game-breaking.

[BravelyRanAway]

Yep....this bug has been around for quite a few years, just don't change your mind during the countdown, sometimes you do correctly end up in the hanger, but you can never be sure.

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

I'm not sure it's "game-breaking".  However, it is irritating and, unfortunately, in the current circumstances it doesn't seem likely it will be fixed.

[Ziptop]

This is not a bug, this is a feature!! 

 

2 battles for the price of one! 

 

Beats not being connected to the battle and then booted to the hangar without your favourite plane. (Which then won't show up for ages and requires a restart of the client just to make that happen anyway.)

[KlausHetti]

But the solution is already there since years!

If you enter a battle - do not leave it - even if you have the option. 

I dunno what's the problem with that workaround?

If you enter a highway with your vehicle you always have the option to turn around and drive into the opposite direction - but you have to live with the consequences.

 

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

KlausHetti, on 26 June 2020 - 11:45 AM, said:

But the solution is already there since years!

If you enter a battle - do not leave it - even if you have the option. 

I dunno what's the problem with that workaround?

If you enter a highway with your vehicle you always have the option to turn around and drive into the opposite direction - but you have to live with the consequences.

 

Maybe I changed my mind because I either forgot something about the plane or want to check something else before I start the battle?...

 

Your highway argument is flawed. If you've entered the queue, you haven't entered the highway. You've joined the line at the turn-off and are waiting for the light to turn green so you can turn to the on-ramp. You can still change your mind and not turn.

[KlausHetti]

Maybe it looks flaw but not really ... imagine there is a traffic jam on the highway. 
There is a point where you can turn around in game and start again. But as soon as your plane is in the matching process, you are on the highway and cannot turn around.
I cannot tell you when you are joined to the matchmaker. There is no real indication and there is also no real indication how many seconds it will take to join you.

The most secure way If you forgot something or you want to check the plane before start .... is not to start!
This is the workaround!  

[BravelyRanAway]

KlausHetti, on 27 June 2020 - 06:47 PM, said:

The most secure way If you forgot something or you want to check the plane before start .... is not to start!
This is the workaround!  

Forget about traffic jams and other pointless analogies. Sometimes real life interferes with gaming....child hurt, phone rings, doorbell chimes, etc.

For me, real life comes way before gaming.

It would be nice to be able to cancel at the last second and not leave that team a player down.

[KlausHetti]

Bravely, that is a good analogy, too!
Who does care about a starting battle if his child is hurt?
Why do you need to answer the phone - just call back.
When there is someone at the door - open it or not ... depends on the time.

 

Real life interferes with gaming - right.
But if there are fixed rules in game as same as there are fixed rules in RL.

 

What is wrong in following fixed rules?

Maybe I am too old for current real life???

 

 

[jakub_czyli_ja]

KlausHetti, on 27 June 2020 - 06:47 PM, said:

Maybe it looks flaw but not really ... imagine there is a traffic jam on the highway. 
There is a point where you can turn around in game and start again. But as soon as your plane is in the matching process, you are on the highway and cannot turn around.

Really crap analogy, like the one of WoWP and a football match.

 

There is a button to leave, so there is designed and implemented possibility to do so.

 

Only implementation is screwed up hard, I guess at the design level. OTOH - expecting them to fix that is like expecting therm to fix cache issue.

[BravelyRanAway]

KlausHetti, on 28 June 2020 - 08:13 AM, said:

 

But if there are fixed rules in game as same as there are fixed rules in RL.

 

What is wrong in following fixed rules?

Maybe I am too old for current real life???

 

As jakub pointed out above...there is a button to leave the queue, which is part of the game and the rules, therefore it should work.

 

Why does your age have anything to do with the topic?

[KlausHetti]

Yes sure guys .. there is a button.
But we all know that the button is not working in the right way since some time.

 

I am talking about a possible workaround.

To repeat that:

If you want to start a battle
- make sure that you have chosen the right plane
- the right equipment

- the right pilot (if it is possible to change)

... at first!

If you are sure that everything is ok then push the button.

 

 

 

What does this have to do with my age?
Watching people in social media but also in real life  (e.g. in my job) I have the feeling that many younger people did not really learn that it is always helpful to use a structured approach in recurring processes.

 

If the process is broken at some point there are at least 2 possibilities to achieve the goal of the process.

- repair the process

- or use a workaround

But I think it does not make much sense to discuss this anymore.

We have a nice game with some bugs.
If anybody has the feeling that the anger about the bugs weights more then the fun of playing the game   

then it is better to stop playing.

 

Use the workaround - or not.

[BravelyRanAway]

KlausHetti, on 28 June 2020 - 12:29 PM, said:

I am talking about a possible workaround.

To repeat that:

If you want to start a battle
- make sure that you have chosen the right plane
- the right equipment

- the right pilot (if it is possible to change)

... at first!

If you are sure that everything is ok then push the button.

 

Eeer....that doesn't cover ringing phones, doorbells or kids. You're just spouting the same stuff you think we didn't understand....we're not stupid.

 

Regardless of your age and a pointless reference to social media......there is no 'work around'.

 

It would not be beyond the bounds of reasoning to expect WG to fix such a small bug......afterall, that button works in WoT and WoWS's, it's not inventing the wheel.

[GonerNL]

KlausHetti, on 28 June 2020 - 01:29 PM, said:

We have a nice game with some bugs.

 

I think that when you put all the bugs in a list, it would be more than just some ...  

[jakub_czyli_ja]

BravelyRanAway, on 28 June 2020 - 01:55 PM, said:

It would not be beyond the bounds of reasoning to expect WG to fix such a small bug......afterall, that button works in WoT and WoWS's, it's not inventing the wheel.

Thing is, that it may be not a small bug.

Queue leaving, battle not lading (as vanishing queue counter), leaving a battle and being able to start another, probably even plane still in a battle may be symptoms of the same issue, buried deep within WoWP architecture.

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

KlausHetti, on 28 June 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

Use the workaround - or not.

 

I'm not looking for a damn workaround.

 

I already know how to avoid the issue.

 

I just want WG to fix this old bug.

[theOneWithaChatBan]

but you get 1000 exp  for being there 

 

[RoyalFlyingCorps]

Chaps, one doesn't choose to leave a battle solely because you remember your plane is unprepared in some way.  Somebody may knock at the front door, the telephone may ring or your significant other may need you — hell, if you're my age you may suddenly realise you absolutely must go to the toilet at that very moment or "après moi, le déluge" will result!  As has been said up the thread, there is a button that allows you to leave the queue, but it doesn't always work.  It's been this way for years and it should have been fixed a long time ago.

[Ziptop]

theOneWithaChatBan, on 01 July 2020 - 09:58 PM, said:

but you get 1000 exp  for being there 

 

Not always. 

I've had a few failures to connect recently where actually no silver/xp are awarded or removed. The plane just goes off and does it's thing in limbo and never comes back.