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Community #1 Posted 26 June 2020 - 11:24 AM

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It's high time to add two exclusive Premium heavy fighters to your collection! The Blohm und Voss BV P.203 and the North American P-82B Twin Mustang are approaching your Hangar!

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Virium #2 Posted 26 June 2020 - 12:46 PM

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Interesting and tempting!

One question though: the P-82B has two cockpits and two pilots, yet only one pilot can be trained when flying it. If this plane had the unique ability to train 2 pilots simultaneously (maybe with an average skill-effect of the two pilots), I would certainly consider the cost to be worthwhile.. as it is, the P-82B doesn´t really add anything special as a premium.. the XP-58 is probably a better investment in terms of crew training since it can actually train both the crewmen it carries.

The ability to train 2 pilots would certainly be a good sales-argument and thus help persuade potential buyers..


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Marcellus_Hungaricus #3 Posted 26 June 2020 - 01:31 PM

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View PostVirium, on 26 June 2020 - 12:46 PM, said:

Interesting and tempting!

One question though: the P-82B has two cockpits and two pilots, yet only one pilot can be trained when flying it. If this plane had the unique ability to train 2 pilots simultaneously (maybe with an average skill-effect of the two pilots), I would certainly consider the cost to be worthwhile.. as it is, the P-82B doesn´t really add anything special as a premium.. the XP-58 is probably a better investment in terms of crew training since it can actually train both the crewmen it carries.

The ability to train 2 pilots would certainly be a good sales-argument and thus help persuade potential buyers..

If you are interested in heavy-multirole type planes, I recommend the NC 1070, nation change available, monster turret, and You can do quite a few aerial kills. Ok it's not a heavy-fighter obviously, but a lot of fun nevertheless.



Ziptop #4 Posted 26 June 2020 - 03:32 PM

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No idea what the German plane is like, I don't see it in the skies much and don't have one..

 

But that Twin Mustang is a beast. The model does indeed show 2 pilots but it only requires one to fly. 

 

It's fast, agile for a heavy and it's speed gets you close enough to melt things with its obscene array of guns. 

 

I have a lot of fun in the XP-58 too. But it drives like a bus and it's slow rate of fire might not suit all players. 

 

Both have earned me silly amounts of silver and XP and both are great for training. 

 

(Note regarding the training. The twin Mustang is more forgiving for rookie crew than the XP-58)



Virium #5 Posted 26 June 2020 - 04:42 PM

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Marcellus_H : thank you for your suggestion, but since I´m pretty lousy at GA´s I usually don´t fly them - lolz

 

Ziptop: I´ve got the La-11, but I don´t do too well in Turn´n & Burn fighters. I really like the Mustang line and the P-82B would probably be a good choice, particularly because - as you said: it "is more forgiving for rookie crew.." With roughly twice the firepower of the P-51H, it should be great fun!

 

My point with org post was that the P-82B is the ONLY aircraft that has two PILOTS.. since all other planes can train crewmen in the crew-slots they have, it kind of doesn´t make sense that the P-82B is the ONLY aircraft that cannot do the same. Since all companies tries to make money, it would provide quite an incentive for buyers if two pilots could be trained simultaneously. Having the skills of both pilots accumulate would be OP, but applying an average - or possibly only apply the skills of the best pilot - would give the P-82B a unique ability, which would reflect the actual crew layout.



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View PostZiptop, on 26 June 2020 - 04:32 PM, said:

The model does indeed show 2 pilots but it only requires one to fly. 

 

So what is the role of the 2nd pilot and how does he gain experience ? Does he even gain xp ?



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There is no 2nd pilot, the same way in B-17 there are no 6 rear gunners.

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Virium #8 Posted 27 June 2020 - 05:44 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 26 June 2020 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

So what is the role of the 2nd pilot and how does he gain experience ? Does he even gain xp ?


The original intention with the Twin Mustang was exactly a perceived benefit of having two pilots: one would pilot the plane during transit to the area of operation, leaving the other pilot fresh and rested for combat.

"..gain xp?" represents gaining experience IRL, right? It´s pretty much how most men learn: you watch someone else do something and since the male brain (the female brain.. not so much - lolz) is highly effective at understanding both the process and the consequences of any given action, males gain ability by "down-loading" experience from other men..



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View Postzen_monk_, on 26 June 2020 - 10:20 PM, said:

There is no 2nd pilot, the same way in B-17 there are no 6 rear gunners.

 

The plane has 2 cockpits and 2 pilot hitboxes.. the intention with the P-82B was the ability to carry 2 pilots - hence it hardly makes sense to claim that there "is no 2nd pilot.."

Correct.. 6 gunners are not present in any multi-gunner planes in the game - since any number of gunners are represented by the one gunner that is present.

Again: my point is that the P-82 was a very unique TWO PILOT AIRCRAFT.. hence my question why this aspect is not represented in the game / a suggestion that it would make sense to have the unique ability implemented as such.



SvenC333 #10 Posted 27 June 2020 - 10:02 AM

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Both planes are very good for farming silver and blast the sh... out of every bomber, high or low tier. Thats enuff reason for me to love them both...

Virium #11 Posted 27 June 2020 - 10:12 AM

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View PostSvenC333, on 27 June 2020 - 10:02 AM, said:

Both planes are very good for farming silver and blast the sh... out of every bomber, high or low tier. Thats enuff reason for me to love them both...

 

Hey Sven!

Do you have the currently offered camo for the P-82B? If so, which benefit does it provide.. is it bonus to speed / crew XP / aircraft xp ?



InVictuS_ShaDoW #12 Posted 27 June 2020 - 01:33 PM

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View PostVirium, on 27 June 2020 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

Hey Sven!

Do you have the currently offered camo for the P-82B? If so, which benefit does it provide.. is it bonus to speed / crew XP / aircraft xp ?


No Sorry, do not have the paint scheme. So InVicuS_ShaDoW´s answer should be right

 



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So, after everybody have had the opportunity to pick up some heavy guns, what about releasing some heavy bombers, too? Like tier 8 stuff and higher tiers, maybe? Are there any chances we'll have new regular planes in this year?
Halllooo, Dear Developer/Moderator Guy, will you remove my post, or just write an answer, maybe?

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KlausHetti #15 Posted 28 June 2020 - 08:37 AM

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Coming back to the Twin Mustang question:
Have there ever been discussions about the F94D Starfire?

 


 

There are two pilots in this plane, too.

The second has very good runaway abilities if the first is dead AND...

He is the one to turn the gatling gun with a big wheel in front of him!


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View PostMarcellus_Hungaricus, on 27 June 2020 - 09:37 PM, said:

So, after everybody have had the opportunity to pick up some heavy guns, what about releasing some heavy bombers, too? Like tier 8 stuff and higher tiers, maybe? Are there any chances we'll have new regular planes in this year?
Halllooo, Dear Developer/Moderator Guy, will you remove my post, or just write an answer, maybe?

 

Yes, we definitely need moarr specialized high tier bombers in the game. Preferably providing hypersonic speed, an 8 miles high operation ceiling and nuclear bombs with a reload of 11.5 seconds! :great:



Marcellus_Hungaricus #17 Posted 30 June 2020 - 06:40 AM

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View PostAimless, on 29 June 2020 - 08:35 PM, said:

 

Yes, we definitely need moarr specialized high tier bombers in the game. Preferably providing hypersonic speed, an 8 miles high operation ceiling and nuclear bombs with a reload of 11.5 seconds! :great:

I don't want more unbalanced bombers, just wanna' SOMETHING new event/planes/modes/bugfixing etc.


Edited by Marcellus_Hungaricus, 30 June 2020 - 06:44 AM.


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Nice! 5d not active in forum and I missed these planes again :facepalm:

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