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Siagor #41 Posted 25 October 2020 - 05:42 PM

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So what we got here as a drawing is Spitfire Hurricane DB 601 :) as a test bed for the engine.

 

The real successor to IK-3 had to wait for the war to end and factory to be renamed, and looked quite nice for a prop plane at the end of the prop age - Ikarus S-49 (indicating the year)

 

 

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Vladinir_Shotitov #42 Posted 25 October 2020 - 08:54 PM

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nitemare_gary, this week 9 picture is a real puzzler :).  Not a 5-blade EC145/BK117D, as the empennage appears to have end-plates.  Not an MD902 as it is too narrow at the front and the tail is too short for the 'dustbin'.  Not one of the exotic 5-bladed Chinese types like the Z-10, as they don't have end-plates... so I have to admit I'm a bit stumped.  Thought it might've been a Dhruv from HAL (not the computer from 2001...) but there aren't enough main rotor blades - ditto for the whole 5-blade Agusta-Wasteland bunch (only in this case it's not enough end-plates, once again).  Wish the photo had slightly more detail to allow for closer inspection... but then again I wish money grew on trees.

 

(mumbles to self - "not a Mil 17, b***dy endplates.  Not a Dauphin, not enough blades... wait a mo', though....")

 

OOooh! Oooh!  Is it an EC155/Airbus H155?

 

(still not convinced - unless I can work out what angle the pic was taken from, the tail aft of the stabiliser appears too short)


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zgubny #43 Posted 26 October 2020 - 10:26 AM

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View PostVladinir_Shotitov, on 25 October 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

nitemare_gary, this week 9 picture is a real puzzler :).  Not a 5-blade EC145/BK117D, as the empennage appears to have end-plates.  Not an MD902 as it is too narrow at the front and the tail is too short for the 'dustbin'.  Not one of the exotic 5-bladed Chinese types like the Z-10, as they don't have end-plates... so I have to admit I'm a bit stumped.  Thought it might've been a Dhruv from HAL (not the computer from 2001...) but there aren't enough main rotor blades - ditto for the whole 5-blade Agusta-Wasteland bunch (only in this case it's not enough end-plates, once again).  Wish the photo had slightly more detail to allow for closer inspection... but then again I wish money grew on trees.

 

(mumbles to self - "not a Mil 17, b***dy endplates.  Not a Dauphin, not enough blades... wait a mo', though....")

 

OOooh! Oooh!  Is it an EC155/Airbus H155?

 

(still not convinced - unless I can work out what angle the pic was taken from, the tail aft of the stabiliser appears too short)

 

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zgubny #44 Posted 26 October 2020 - 10:44 AM

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View Postnitemare_gary, on 25 October 2020 - 09:54 AM, said:

Week nine is here, and although the aircraft is not too difficult, the angle is certainly an awkward one. What, you didn't think that all the photos I used would be nice side on angles, did you?

 

Week No.9 picture:

P1090055.jpg

 

Hey nitemare_gary can you provide us more clues about this 5 blades helicopter ?

 

 


Edited by zgubny, 07 November 2020 - 12:36 PM.


nitemare_gary #45 Posted 26 October 2020 - 12:29 PM

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I'll give you all a few more days to think about it, then I'll put another picture up. This clue picture was taken about five seconds later and is at a better angle, but is further away.

As for verbal clues, try a bit of research on the livery. There's been some good guesses, glad to have finally given you all a challenge.  


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Vladinir_Shotitov #46 Posted 26 October 2020 - 02:00 PM

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Allowing for the fact that my retirement-age eyesight ain't all it used to be, and I never splashed out on a fancy photo-editing-compatible monitor with full RGB consistency, I'd say the heli was mainly yellow.  I'm aware that NHV took over the contract for windfarm support a little while back, which would point to either H155 or H175 - but the 175 has a diddy stabiliser right at the very back of the tailboom.  I suppose that if the heli was at a pitch angle that can't be determined from this particular pic then it COULD just be that the stab is further back, but I'm not convinced.... and please don't ask me to identify the types of tree in the foreground 'cos I haven't a clue there either!

 

...but I DO know that you need to get yourself a better lens for the camera :teethhappy:


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Siagor #47 Posted 26 October 2020 - 02:55 PM

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This element confuses me.

 

 

Paint and the outline matches Eurocopter EC175 (as Vladinir said, it's his find not mine) but this stab is nowhere to be found on the net.



Vladinir_Shotitov #48 Posted 26 October 2020 - 05:06 PM

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OK, I know I'm slow with computers and everyfink, but zen - how did your copy of the pic come out THAT size?  The one I'm looking at on my screen from _gary's original post is about 3cm across...
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zgubny #49 Posted 26 October 2020 - 05:19 PM

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I think it's "Coastguard Rescue AgustaWestland AW139 "

 

 

(As for the trees i'm sure there is at least an Acacia over there ...)


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View Postzen_monk_, on 26 October 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:

 but this stab is nowhere to be found on the net.

 

Maybe it's just the angle ... there is a funny triangle on that tail-winglet.

 

As for the size of zen's pic ; just hold ctrl and scroll forward ... zoom in.

 


Edited by GonerNL, 26 October 2020 - 05:24 PM.


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View PostVladinir_Shotitov, on 26 October 2020 - 06:06 PM, said:

OK, I know I'm slow with computers and everyfink, but zen - how did your copy of the pic come out THAT size?  The one I'm looking at on my screen from _gary's original post is about 3cm across...


...and when you click on the picture, it gets larger. Now if you chose to save it, it gets even larger in the saved form. Then a simple crop.

 

EDIT

To anyone who knows choppers for real, professionally (Vladinir, I guess I should be looking at you) how it goes with the "rear wings", these horizontal stabilizers at the rear? Are they fixed shape for a certain model, or can they be modular depending on the current role/task on that day?

 

If they are fixed shape, than these mysterious chopper of Gary has the unique ones - never seen this 'boomerang-ish', 'elongated phone hand' shape on any Augusta nor Eurocopter. Or anywhere.


Edited by zen_monk_, 26 October 2020 - 07:31 PM.


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Sigh - thanks fellas.  Now thinking it's more likely to be a Leonardo 189, but I have to go for din-dins so will check again later.

 

...if only I knew all this 'puter stuff, I'd never have made such an idiot of myself with all those earlier ramblings...


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View PostVladinir_Shotitov, on 26 October 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:

Sigh - thanks fellas.  Now thinking it's more likely to be a Leonardo 189, but I have to go for din-dins so will check again later.

 

...if only I knew all this 'puter stuff, I'd never have made such an idiot of myself with all those earlier ramblings...

 

Oh yes you are right it's a 189 and not a 139 ... Bravo dude !

 

 

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OK, I've had my dinner (fish pie, which goes very nicely with the humble pie I've had to scoff for not knowing anything about basic image usage on 'puters...).  Yep - I think it's a UK Coastguard Leonardo AW189 - but looking back at the original tiny pic I can see why I was convinced it had end-plates.  Sigh... again.

 

Oops, didn't refresh the page before adding this - just seen Zen's edit and zgubny's lovely pic.  Zen, stabilisers aren't modular - once the designer has picked a particular shape and size it remains like that... until the manufacturer decides to try something different.  Have a look at Airbus' prototype 5-blade 135 with the T-tail then compare it to the P1/T1/T2/P2/T3/P3 - the first 4 have a horizontal stab of equal width on both sides of the fuselage with end-plates, while the last 2 have dispensed with the end-plates to alter how the aircraft responds in yaw to autopilot commands.


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View Postzen_monk_, on 26 October 2020 - 08:00 PM, said:


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To anyone who knows choppers for real, professionally (Vladinir, I guess I should be looking at you) ...

 

 

You're right on target, mate.

Good old Vladinir has a *lot* of knowledge about choppers - and a lot of interesting stories to share also, btw.

 


 


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..some of which MIGHT be true...
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Vladinir_Shotitov #57 Posted 26 October 2020 - 08:40 PM

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Now, about those trees - the one on the right is possibly a Copper Beech, but I'm bothered by the one on the left.  Small leaves, slightly pointed, multiple instances sharing a single twig - is it one of the Ash family?  Rowan, maybe?
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Well, it's that time of week again. Round ten has landed. Don't worry, it's not so hard this time. (sorry it's late though, RL showed it's ugly head)

 

Week nine answer:

Leonardo/Agusta Westland Coastguard AW-189

(As for the trees, one of them is definitely a copper beach, but I don't know about the other.)

 

Points for week nine:

4 points for zgubny 

2 points for vladinir_shotitov

 

Points breakdown:

So, for this week the answer categories are 1: Leonardo/Agusta Westland, 2: AW-189. The third one is a bit tricky to classify, but in this case I will say that it would be SAR (Search And Rescue) or Coastguard. It's hard to see, but the 189s operated by Bristow have modifications such as additional external cameras, and the easiest way to spot this is the paint scheme. zgubny was the first to say "Coastguard Rescue Agusta Westland AW139" and scores for the underlined categories. Vladinir then got the last piece of the puzzle, AW-189, and wins category 2.

 

Week No.10 picture:

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Sorry zen, if this is your answer, could I please ask if you could type it onto your post as well. It would be much appreciated.

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