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Any T7 premiums particularly good?

jakub_czyli_ja's Photo jakub_czyli_ja 29 Nov 2020

Real information is that each tier has its own coefficient transforming PP to exp. Of course due to various bonuses.

I didn't check, nor didn't program it (probably yet) to compute such things, bit same amount of PP on tier VI most probably will give more exp than in tier V, and less than in tier VII, VIII etc.

How many points are scored - it's purely dependent on player.

 

Dogfight against Ki-102 in multirole isn't a big achievement - S-199 has half a second better turn rate, and if human HF tried to dogfight single engine plane, he lost at the moment of start trying. There are exceptions like Fw 190A losing to XP-50, but they are rare.

Winning against Spitfire - a mutitude of factors, starting from control in this game that seems to be broken very hard, going to server desynchronizations (from time to time I observe sudden jump of planes in battles) ending on not really skilled Spit driver expecting that everything will do itself, because it's specialized Spitfire (when specialization in fact needs only time and maybe few tokens, and there was enough time to get it done). I wouldn't bet on S-199 in a series of such dogfights with various players.

 

Plane itself is ok, but I wouldn't expect any stellar results, just another average plane.

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CheefCoach's Photo CheefCoach 01 Dec 2020

Am I to late?

 

When it comes to benefit/cost of real money, tier 5 and tier 8 are most optimized in my opinion. Tier 6 premium can be quite a fun. Tier 7 are neither of those. 

 

This is sort of my opinion of them:

 

Meteor is quite fast and have decant weapons, but the biggest problem of that plane is turning. As long as your are covered by teammates, you will have good time in it. 

Ki-94-I have strong weaponry when it hits, and often it misses. 

VB 10 have really good weapons, but it is plane with one of the worst climb rate in the game. Changing altitude with this plane is difficult. 

Fw 190, I don't have this premium, but I have tech tree Fw 190. I am using my tech tree plane with 4x20 mm, as 30 mm guns are horrible. 

J4M Senden have good speed, and solid guns, but it is sluggish. It takes different tactical approach and it can't carry a game. But as pilot trainer it is better than J8M. 

XP 75 is opposite of VB 10. Guns are weak, but planes have one of the best climb rate in the game (with out of using boost). 

And I don't have La 9RD or P 51K, but neither of them is impressing me. 

 

Yak 3RD is very good but you can't buy it. If you haven't bought VB 10, don't. You will get one in the Crimson Down crates. So I would go for Meteor or J4M. 

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Dhansak's Photo Dhansak 02 Dec 2020

Hi CheefCoach

 

No you're not too late!  In the end I couldn't justify letting my friend spend 20+ gbp on a plane for me that was not really, really special. If there was a real gem I would have gratefully accepted - but didn't want him to buy something I wouldn't use very often. So in the end i redirected him to a 5 pound dlc for Avorion! - my conscience is much happier with that lol.

 

As I mentioned earlier,  I seem to have acquired a lot of premiums (mainly from crates) so am not short of xp or cash earners. Also - I acquired the Yak 3RD from a crate a while ago; I really like it as I recall and should play it more often for sure. At the moment though I am mainly flying in my new T9s and trying to get to grips with those :) 

 

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dapprman's Photo dapprman 05 Dec 2020

Must admit I've been reading this thread with interest.  I keep contemplating getting the TU-1 as there's three which are semi common on the EU servers and deadly (two tend to play in a wing/div/team) but the few times it's been on sale I've suffered from a mixture of cold feet and not being willing to spend that much.  Also been part tempted by the Meteor, VB10 and XP-75, but with all three I just think about how much of the time they will be against tier 8 planes, where some of the least balanced in the game reside.
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TungstenHitman's Photo TungstenHitman 01 Jan 2021

View Postjakub_czyli_ja, on 29 November 2020 - 06:57 PM, said:

 I wouldn't bet on S-199 in a series of such dogfights with various players.

 

Plane itself is ok, but I wouldn't expect any stellar results, just another average plane.

 

It's actually a really nice airplane to play and capable dogfighter. The tech tree 109 F was a bit of a disappointment, regardless of it's sweet handling, gorgeous looks and iconic status as most all Luftwaffe's pilots favorite 109 variant. To me the poor dps just sucks the fun out of that fighter and it feels like a regression over it's very punchy 109 E predecessor. So for me, the S-199 hits more like how the 109 F should be hitting. In this game I feel it would have been nice for the 109 F and G/K variants to have the optional 20mm cannon pods for the wings at the cost of speed and rate of climb.

 

For reasons others have mentioned, I would also question buying a T7 premium, I just feel T7 gets a bad deal in terms of MM and what it has to fight most the time, which is T8. From my limited experience grinding through a few T7 aircraft, I felt that tier was a real struggle compared to being lower tier for any other tier I've played. T8 aircraft just seem to get a big jump in performance, either speed or firepower etc, that can just easily bully T7 aircraft which don't have the attributes to fight back as well as other lower tiers can when bottom tier. T8 is the first of the P3 era aircraft so just like T5, lots of players play them to complete various missions and just like T5, because so many play T8, this naturally forges many T8 battles, in which T7 is obviously going to get dragged in. 

 

For me, T6 seems one of the more reliable top tier MM tiers to play. Same reason. Because so many play T5 aircraft, most battles are going to be T5 vs T6 because there's more T5 and fewer T6 in those battles by MM design. This means if you play T6, you will most likely be top tier most the time. Unsurprisingly, many of my T6 aircraft are some of my most successful with highest win rates, higher than 70% win rate.... and it's just because I'm top tier most the time I guess, stands to reasons. So that would be my 2 cents on it. But like I said, I haven't played a lot of T7 aircraft, they were just fast grinds, never top spec, often with skipped modules to save wasting xp so... take it as such. 

 

Back to the S-199. One of the best value premiums imo. It's almost everything the 109 F should have been in this game only without the high altitude performance. It's cheap to buy, grinds credits and crew really well, has the massive bonus of being able to represent other nations for 100k credits and believe me, I have trained pilots for all the major nations with this aircraft, Germany, Japan, UK, U.S.A.(Currently grinding a U.S. pilot) but most importantly, it's fun and effective to play. I went with a full turn build. Sure, it ain't no spitfire with a leisurely 10 second 360 turn time but it feels nimble tbh and can still out-turn plenty of aircraft. Even with a turn build it's rather quick with a 450kph sort of cruise speed but it has a really nice attribute over LF's which you will see in the screenshot, and that's the ability to mount gun equipment.... REALLY nice that. So you can built it and fly it to your liking and preference or even mission requirement. I generally take the bombs with me but sometimes I'll fly without them for extra speed, boost speed and climb rate. The win rate is not as high as my T6 fighters but it's still pretty solid at around 62% +- and that's not bad considering I've treated it like a total workhorse for many battles to training new pilots with no skills so... it could be possibly as successful as the fighters if played only with one quality pilot. I've also "borrowed" fully upgraded equipment from it too for other aircraft lol so it's flown battles in less than ideal offerings so to have a good win rate even while treating it like a toilet says a lot about how strong this MR is. Anyway, a great workhorse, very capable, nice dps, good sustained firepower that's slow to overheat and with impressive range, everything is on the menu, a great buy. Would recommend.

 

 

  


Edited by TungstenHitman, 01 January 2021 - 11:13 AM.
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GoldKnight's Photo GoldKnight 05 Jan 2021

T7 more than tu-1 and maybe meteor i don't see alot there.
T7 main problem are the t8 games, where the difference is rly alot.

Atleast those 2 planes can perform good on t8 and are rly good in top tier.
But both of them are quite challenging planes to master and to fly.


About t6 s-199 is a beast in GOOD hands, which means rare thing. U have to know what to do and when, it is not a plane which allows big mistakes, it is a mrf at the end, so not much hp and above average speed and avg manuev.
But it gives lot of satisfactions.
Main problem on t6 is the beast called ki-102, me410 is less than a problem cos u can easily outmanuever it but the firepower of me410 is not a joke.


Obviously everything depends on ur playstile. U like to jump in and fly away, u like to dogfight, low or high alt etc etc.
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