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The developers are not interested in new trees, that has been said many times ... 

 

Engelse uitdrukking :

This is on my wish list, but don't hold your breath.

Dat staat wel op mijn verlanglijstje, maar reken er voorlopig niet op.

Ok, I understand you. Maybe later on they will be interested...

That also gives me some time to expand the bomber and the heavy fighter tree.

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 17 February 2021 - 07:10 AM.

Fokker T.VI

A heavy armed Dutch heavy bomber.

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: 2 × Oerlikon 20mm autocannons and 5 × .30 cal guns shared by 5 turrets

Bombs: 2000 kg

Maximum speed: ?

 

Secundair:

Crew: 6

Engines: Gnome-Rhóne 14Krsd (1100 HP)

FOKKER G.I Wasp

 

This pictury is a G.I Mercury, not the G.I Wasp!
The smaller and lighter exportvariant of the Fokker G.I

 

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: 4×7.9 mm in nose, 1×7.9 mm for tailgunner

Bombs: 400 kg

Speed: ?

Maximum speed: ? (lower than G.I Mercury)

 

Secundair:

Crew: 2

Engine: Pratt & Whitney SB4-G Twin Wasp Junior (466-615 kW)

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 25 February 2021 - 09:01 AM.

AVIOLANDA A-1

Some Dutch project, never came further than a mockup so it can be completely fitted to its tier. The name Aviolanda A-1 is also fantasy

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: (own fantasy!) 4 × 7.9 mm

bombs: (own fantasy!) 180 kg

speed: (own fantasy!) 325 km/h

Maximum speed: (own fantasy!) 375 km/h

Secundair:

Crew: (not fantasy) 1

Engine: (not fantasy) some Rolls-Royce engine (838 hp)

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 03 May 2021 - 04:53 PM.

The Netherlands has always been a great naval power, it was indestructable and it managed to defeat the British/French fleet multiple times (Battle of Texel/Raid of Medway). So wouldn't it be fun to heve a Dutch NAVAL subtree for planes which could land on water (which only can be played on naval maps off course).

 

characteristics:

-Slow

-Not very agile at high tiers

-Weak gun aramament

-Strong bomb armament

-Less damage taken when touching the water (if you crash your still dead but if you just touch it with your landing gear it doesn't take damage at all)

-High number of hitpoints (to reduce the shortcomings)

Planes are naval planes when:

-They have landing gear that make the plane able to land on the water

-Is a bomber (inclusive light bombers like the Fokker T.IIIw)

 

 

 

1: Fokker T.IIIw

2: Fokker T.VIIIw

3: Fokker T.IVa

4: Aviolanda Do.24K-2 (Dornier)

5:

6:

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10:

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Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 29 March 2021 - 06:56 AM.

FOKKER T.IIIW

 

Small Dutch plane, a weak (torpedo)bomber with only two rear guns, but strong bomb armament.

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: 2 × 7.7mm guns in rear cockpit

Bombs: 1 × Torpedo or 3 × 100 kg + 1 × 50 

Maximum Speed: 169 km/h

 

Secundair:

Crew: 2

Engine: Napier-Lion W-12 (450 HP)

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 14 March 2021 - 07:08 AM.

FOKKER T.VIIIW

 

A well-known Dutch waterplane, still slow, but a strong bomb armament

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: 2 × 7.9mm guns

Bombs: 600 kg bombs/torpedos

Maximum Speed: 285 km/h

Secundair:

Crew: 3

Engine: Wright R-975-E3 Whirlwind (336 kW each)

 

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 14 March 2021 - 07:14 AM.

FOKKER T.IVA

Ugly plane, right? OK, it's slow (yeah you know, the whole naval subtree is). Actually strong bomb armament. Because the size of this plane, it deserves tons of HP.

 

Specifications

Important: 

Guns: 3 × 7.9 mm guns shared by turrets

Bombs: 800 kg bombs or 1 × torpedo

Maximum Speed: 260 km/h

Secundair:

Crew: 4

Engines: Wright SR-1830-F2 Cyclone (560 kW each)

AVIOLANDA DO.24K-2

Sick of Dutch versions? Its fine, here you get another one. The Aviolanda (Dutch plane company) version of the Dornier Do.24. License produced and the wings were delivered by De Schelde (That company of De Schelde S.21)

 

Specifications:

Important:

Guns: 1 × MG151 autocannon and 2 × 7.9 mm guns shared by 3 turrets

Bombs: 1,200 kg bombs 

Maximum Speed: The original German version was 330 km/h, but the K-2 used other engines.

 

Secundair:

Crew: 4 or 6

Engines: Wright R-1820-G102 (746 kW)

 

Sign for Naval planes (like a ground-attackers has a triangle): ⮝ (the top means the plane and the two small triangles at the bottom are the two navallandinggearstuff a naval plane has)

(My design)

 

 

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 11 March 2021 - 08:50 AM.

I think the tree is finished now, so I wanna hear your opinion.

 

If you know some useful information please react

 

Note: Maybe it seems that the armament of the Dutch planes lacks on everything, but it's just like the Japanese tree. Dutch planes were very, very agile.

Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 26 May 2021 - 09:36 AM.

So because a Dutch tree means Dutch namebases and pilot ranks!

 

NOT forget:

Anthony Fokker

 

Real Dutch Aces:

 

first name(s) red, familynames blue)

Rudolf Frans Burgwal: 23

Jan Leendert Plesman: 11

(first name unknown) Jongbloed: 11

(first name unknown) van Beers: 11 ('van' is a part of the family name and means something like 'of' and is written without caps)

(first name unknows Janssen: 8

Jan van Arkel: 8

Hugh Constant Godefroy: 7

Leender Karel van Eendenburg: 7

(first name unknown) Jonker: 6

(first name unknown) Cramm: 5 

 

Also this one because he scored a kill by trying bail out and accidentaly making a part of the cockpit hit the enemies engines.

Jacobus Roos: 2

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First names that could be used for autogeneration:

Adriaan Albert Anthony Antonius Bartus Berend Bernard Bodo Carsten Christiaan Cornelis Dirk Ferdinand Freek Frits Gerard Godfried Govert Hendrik Henri Jacob Jacobus Jan "Jan Willem" Jasper Johan Johannes Jurjen Laurens Mathias Matthijs Nicolaas Peter Petrus Philippus Pieter Quirinus Sijmen Theodorus Tjerk Ton Willem Ysbrand Zeger

Familynames that could be used for autogeneration:

Boers "'t Mannetje" Best "Bischoff van Heemskerk" "de Visser" "den Hollander" "den Ouden" "Jacometti" "van den Bent" "van den Briel" "van den Hof"  "van der Bijl" "van Helsdingen" "van Liempd" "van Setten" "van Voorst tot Voorst" "van Zinnicq Bergmann" "Wittert van Hoogland" Bosch Bruggink Bruinier  Buijs Buurman Carstens "den Breejen" Elias Folmer Giesen Ham Harberts Hilberdink Hoogewerff Hoving Jaapies Janssen Jolles Kaak Kraak Krouwel Kuiper Landzaat  Leegstra Lukkien Maas Migchelbrink Reijnierse Rijnders Roelofsen Sandberg Scherpenhuijzen Schippers Steen Tebrunsvelt Varwijk Verhoef Visscher Vos Winkelman  "de Koning" "de Graaf" Hiemstra Gaastra Fokker Paardekooper "van der Noorden"

 

Note that the spaces actually should be commas

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Ranks (Dutch modern-day + comparable English rank modern-day based on NATO codes)

Korporaal - Lance Corporal

Korporaal der 1e klasse - Corporal

Sergeant - Sergeant

Sergeant der 1e klasse - Sergeant First Class 

Sergeant-majoor - Flight Sergeant/Chief Technician

Adjudant-onderofficier - Warrant Officer

Vaandrig - Officer cadet

Tweede luitenant - Pilot officer

Eerste luitenant - Flying officer

Kapitein - Flight lieutenant

Majoor - Squandron leader

Luitenant-kolonel - Wing commander

Kolonel - Group captain

Commodore - Air commodore

Generaal-majoor - Air vice-marshal 

Luitenant-generaal - Air marshal

Generaal - Air chief marsal

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Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 02 June 2021 - 05:14 PM.

Burgwal & Plesman only shot down V1's afaik.
Did v1's count as regular aerial victories?
Edited by wack007, 07 June 2021 - 09:16 AM.

I dont know, but it was dangerous job to shoot down V1 rockets, because you needed to tip their wings and disorder their flying path. 
Edited by Quexcy_de_Eerste, 07 June 2021 - 02:26 PM.

I have been dreaming of an Italian light fighter tree for a long time now. New tree's would be super cool to have. Unfortunately it's never going to happen.

All we can hope for is the odd new plane (which will clearly be premium) here and there.

Great tree suggestions, but like GonerNL says....

For me there are already glaring tree holes all over that I assume they've got no intention of filling, the maddest one of which must be not having the Handley Page Hampden available to play even though it's in the in-game bomber flights already.

I would be astounded if they wanted to put the work into an entirely new tree when the profit is in the paper plane specials.  But I really don't get the thought process - surely they understand that much of their committed player base are slightly obsessive big kids who spent far too long as small kids building Airfix kits and running round the school yard with arms out shouting "tak-a-tak-a-tak"?  I didn't gel with the game-play but I thought the War Thunder tech trees were much more interesting.