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View Postenceladus2050, on 09 February 2021 - 10:09 PM, said:

Thanks everyone for your answers! Probably I'm not that good enough at this game and need to have more experience.

For now, I just want to get to a jet really quick and after that I will probably play tier 4 or 5.

I'm new here as well and play round the t3-5 area. Having some really good games now so it dos pay not to rush up, take yer time and enjoy it. :)

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View Postenceladus2050, on 09 February 2021 - 11:09 PM, said:

For now, I just want to get to a jet really quick and after that I will probably play tier 4 or 5.

 

Don't. Every tier is little bit faster, and it is little bit harder to play it. You won't have any fun with jets right now, with losing most of the battles and killing 1 planes per battle.

 

Also Ki-162-I you are going to, isn't the best jet out there. It turn fast, but guns are temperamental. They miss a lot. 

 

Me P.1101, Yak 30, La 15, F 86A maybe even BV P.215.02 are the fighters you want to play with. 

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View Postenceladus2050, on 09 February 2021 - 10:09 PM, said:

Thanks everyone for your answers! Probably I'm not that good enough at this game and need to have more experience.

For now, I just want to get to a jet really quick and after that I will probably play tier 4 or 5.

 

I wouldn't recommend climbing too fast up the tech trees yet, although there is nothing wrong with "dipping your toe in the water" and having a try, but remember it will be really tough at higher tiers with out in a lot more game experience.

 

Try to get some really good pilots, they help immeasurably also, research what equipment is the best to use on your classes of planes, that will make a biggest difference to winning a dogfight 

 

 

View PostPlug, on 09 February 2021 - 10:26 PM, said:

I'm new here as well and play round the t3-5 area. Having some really good games now so it dos pay not to rush up, take yer time and enjoy it. :)

 

That's a good point just get your pilots up to 4-6 points before moving them up to the higher tiers 

 

Biggest tip I can give to both is to look at which caps are the biggest priority to capture,

these are basic but will give you a pointer, 

 

In fighters

 

1. Missile base top priority

2. Radar base 

3.Factory (only if there are enemy in cap)

 

If you are in a bomber or ground attack plane its

 

1. Factory

2. Missile base

3.Radar base

 

 Of course there are instance's where you may have to change the order of importance due to spawn and map location

 

Little tip, for both slowly do the Vampire campaign and you get one of the best tier 8 premium planes in the game for free. 

 

 

There are people vastly more experience than me whom I'm sure can impart some good knowledge to you guys, don't make the mistake of looking at your stats it will diminish the fun aspect of the game


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Military (missile) base is always the first priority. Only reason why we in EF 131s or RB 17s are going after plant first is because we are greedy, and have quick bomb reload. The team who hold missile base is the winning team. 

 

Plant is higher priority than command center (satellite dish) after command center was nerfed. Stile command center must be secured. 

 

In maps with central plant, that plant is priority, even for fighters. Plan is worth 2+ (as + is little more than) sectors. 

 

Hot advice I would give to all new players is to get one stock equipment of each type they use, and just fully calibrate it as stock. Stock equipment can be moved from plane to plane for free, and calibrated will give some advantage over the bots. 

 

And remove all rockets and bombs from the multies and heavies if you are new player. You will be faster, and you will concentrate only on areal targets. Ordinance is for the more experienced players. 


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View PostCheefCoach, on 09 February 2021 - 11:27 PM, said:

 

Plant is higher priority than command center (satellite dish) after command center was nerfed. Stile command center must be secured. 

 

 

ZOMG they nerfed Radar gaffs (Satellite) and Disco wasn't informed,

 

Ok listen to Chief he knows his stuff

 

Maybe we shouldn't be giving away our secrets these guys might come and own us 


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View PostDiscontinued, on 10 February 2021 - 12:52 AM, said:

 

ZOMG they nerfed Radar gaffs (Satellite) and Disco wasn't informed,

 

Ok listen to Chief he knows his stuff

 

Maybe we shouldn't be giving away our secrets these guys might come and own us 

 

O yeah, they nerfed them some times ago. Bombers are now much slower than they were in 2.0; they might have more hp. Usually 3rd wave show up by the time 1st reaches the target. And it takes longer for them to be called. 

 

Anther change is in form of wait time after destruction of the plane. It doesn't increase ever single time, and there are gates, set up times, when all destroyed planes are let into the battle in bunch. So in a way, airbase (big one) is nerfed as well, because. now it only have repair station (along with spawn point, same as airstrip). Bots also react to short commands, similar as in 1.9. Period III also got G-suit and radio-navigation equipment's. 

 

It is much easier for me to explain things on forum, in calmly fashion, than to scream to people in the middle of the battle. 

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View Postenceladus2050, on 09 February 2021 - 10:09 PM, said:

Thanks everyone for your answers! Probably I'm not that good enough at this game and need to have more experience.

For now, I just want to get to a jet really quick and after that I will probably play tier 4 or 5.

 

I take a slightly different tack to some others, though their recommendations for you to progress more slowly are certainly sensible.  If this is your goal, then pursue it; it's good to have a goal in this game.  However, as you have begun to recognise, pursuing that goal may come at the cost of, for example, low win rate.

That said, the tech tree line you're going up doesn't have jets until tier 9.  There are several other lines where jets appear at tier 8; for instance, you might have gone up the Soviet fighter line that culiminates in the Yak-30.

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Holasss.

 

The Military Base should always be the number one priority for all types of aircraft except for fighters, if it is not in the center, since it helps you to capture other bases efficiently and without risks. You should NEVER try to capture the same base that our Military Base is attacking. If you are shot down in the base that is attacking our Military Base, it regenerates and the Military Base can never capture it.

 

To consider:
1.- A Military Base will never attack another so priority number two is to attack the enemy Military Base, wherever it is on the map. In this way, the two Military Bases will capture the rest of the map while you only need to defend them at all costs.
2.- Two Military Bases will attack the same base and the Command Center will not. One of them will be inactive if there is only one base to attack.
3.- A Military Base only has two ADA heavy fighters to shoot down. Going there with fighters is unnecessary, the heavy fighters will take care of it.

 

The fighters must go to capture the adjacent base so that our Military Base does not waste time in capturing it and devotes itself quickly to capturing the enemy bases.

 

The importance of the Command Center is greater than you suppose because it will divert bots and even players out of bases to take them down and thus, you will have fewer enemies to face. I don't care if the bombers capture bases or not.

 

Most of the games are lost due to the selfishness of many players who only go to the center, if it is not a Military Base or a Command Center, then they avoid it, to face silly bots that go there due to inertia.

 

Pure strategy. This arcade game has a huge strategic component. I contribute a lot to winning battles because I know where to attack and when, not because I am a good pilot. Any veteran player shoot me down easily.

 

Saluditos.

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View Postenceladus2050, on 09 February 2021 - 12:38 AM, said:

Is this game tweaked for losing ? Everyday I lose 4-5 consecutive battles, no matter how well I play.

Bots in my team are worse than the bots in the enemy team. I curently play with a tier 7 Ki-84.

 ı will just given one example  this game is not in  a standart how we wished , we play agains computer robots 95% flying robots %5 maybe human player ,matchmaker managed the game how is programmed ,realistic standarts in game  is a utopia  ,dont hoppe to match from this game , this game need a radical upgrade  but the boss of wg  love just wot to match  spend more money for wot ,wowp or wows is not in first rang  you can be best player no chance  you cant winn every game   4-5 time losing game is minimal ,you can also lost game 10-15 time  becouse  game is unbalanced mm managed  like a god  who can winn who not 

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Well, doing mental things like trying to dogfight in a B32, as I've seen you attempt, is probably a large part of the reason you have those loss streaks.
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View PostMcTorpe, on 10 February 2021 - 07:12 AM, said:

Holasss.

 

The Military Base should always be the number one priority for all types of aircraft except for fighters, if it is not in the center, since it helps you to capture other bases efficiently and without risks. You should NEVER try to capture the same base that our Military Base is attacking. If you are shot down in the base that is attacking our Military Base, it regenerates and the Military Base can never capture it.

 

To consider:
1.- A Military Base will never attack another so priority number two is to attack the enemy Military Base, wherever it is on the map. In this way, the two Military Bases will capture the rest of the map while you only need to defend them at all costs.
2.- Two Military Bases will attack the same base and the Command Center will not. One of them will be inactive if there is only one base to attack.
3.- A Military Base only has two ADA heavy fighters to shoot down. Going there with fighters is unnecessary, the heavy fighters will take care of it.

 

The fighters must go to capture the adjacent base so that our Military Base does not waste time in capturing it and devotes itself quickly to capturing the enemy bases.

 

The importance of the Command Center is greater than you suppose because it will divert bots and even players out of bases to take them down and thus, you will have fewer enemies to face. I don't care if the bombers capture bases or not.

 

Most of the games are lost due to the selfishness of many players who only go to the center, if it is not a Military Base or a Command Center, then they avoid it, to face silly bots that go there due to inertia.

 

Pure strategy. This arcade game has a huge strategic component. I contribute a lot to winning battles because I know where to attack and when, not because I am a good pilot. Any veteran player shoot me down easily.

 

Saluditos.

 ım agree with you this is a old sickness  to atacke center ,ı saw this also in wot jears ago mostly kids doing that  is a  naive kid reacktion sticked atacking the midde allways without any strategy or tactics,in wot  same ta ta ta tata in 1 min was all dead destroyed:teethhappy:

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View PostOld_But_TaFF, on 09 February 2021 - 09:23 AM, said:

Sorry, but you yourself described the problem of your defeat. With 432 battle it is too early for this level.

you have nothing to do as to kidding with weak sides of players   allways negative comments

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View Postairfight10, on 18 February 2021 - 08:34 PM, said:

 ı will just given one example  this game is not in  a standart how we wished , we play agains computer robots 95% flying robots %5 maybe human player ,matchmaker managed the game how is programmed ,realistic standarts in game  is a utopia  ,dont hoppe to match from this game , this game need a radical upgrade  but the boss of wg  love just wot to match  spend more money for wot ,wowp or wows is not in first rang  you can be best player no chance  you cant winn every game   4-5 time losing game is minimal ,you can also lost game 10-15 time  becouse  game is unbalanced mm managed  like a god  who can winn who not 

 

My colleague,
I have a different opinion on that.

Regards,

zywiec

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