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navigational radio equipment ?

GonerNL's Photo GonerNL 06 Mar 2021

So far I only used this on GA, for extra concealment.

But would it work on high tier heavies ? You would see the bombers before they see you, which could help ... anybody tried it ?


Edited by GonerNL, 06 March 2021 - 10:00 PM.
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CheefCoach's Photo CheefCoach 06 Mar 2021

Nope. But I use that-on on bombers. 
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Woolfie_aka_paca_chatban's Photo Woolfie_aka_paca_chatban 08 Mar 2021

try it  on   my small t8/9/10  fighters  works well 

 

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TungstenHitman's Photo TungstenHitman 09 Mar 2021

In regards camo value, there's other factors at work other than the raw % value stated on such equipment and paint etc. Not all classes and tiers have the same view range and there's other factors such as altitude, clouds, hardcover, firing weapons and even the condition of your aircraft in regards smoking engines and being on fire. Don't confuse damaged aircraft being more detectable via the obvious visual signs of a smoking engine or being a bright firey comet lol, no I mean you actual detection rating increases and so you get detected sooner than that of a healthy aircraft. 

 

So far as altitude goes, there are bonuses starting from 200 meters(off the top of my head, sorry if I am out a bit on that one) and increases the lower you go reaching maximum camo effectiveness at 50m or lower. This is why generally radio equipment is more effective and useful on GAA's that generally keep their aircraft on the low because they are gaining the benefits of camo equipment and paint along with additional alt camo bonus.... even if they had no idea about it lol! but now that you know this info, there was never a better reason to do so from now on in your future battles when flying groundhogs! Next time you're flying one of those, stay low although I must say 50m is a rather daunting height to try and maintain! 

 

Does that make putting radio equipment on bombers or even a heavy ineffective? Of course not it's still effective and does what it says on the lid only... at such a height you will obviously not get any additional camo bonuses BUT, when used in conjunction with camo paint, the +10% detection skills etc etc etc, you can certainly work it to your advantage as a bomber via simply spotting those dangerous high alt aircraft without being spotted yourself and trying to avoid them. Even not getting spotted by a low alt aircraft that can't touch is still beneficial for the obvious reason that if that low alt aircraft spots you, so does his entire team now... and maybe he might click and F4 on you if he had spotted you, sending some trollbot HF after you and those HF bots don't quit!!

 

For a heavy fighter, this equipment can work well too. Not just for some shared reasons as the bomber but also to work it in a different way and style that benefits a heavy fighter, avoiding some hot zones where there just seems to be way too many enemy aircraft without them spotting you and just to close in on a bomber before he spots you, giving him less time to react and less time for him to try escape or orientate his bomber to get the gunners working on you. Plenty of benefits, it's really up to the sharpness and creativity of the player to exploit.

 

The radio equipment also features some accuracy bonus skills too, most importantly the moving accuracy one which is not less than that of the optics alternative(or whatever it gets renamed to at P3, don't care). Sure, it won't be able to achieve as tight a dispersion circle, that might be a factor for some very precision based weaponry for certain heavies but generally it's not going to be such a thing. For players that are not pixel perfect or not that great at leading shots, more dispersion is actually going to be beneficial for you. For players like that, it's better to land a reasonable amount of shots with a dispersed spray of shells(within reason) and playing the area saturation game rather than landing no shots at all when playing a laser accurate tiny stream of shells that you need to be really dialed in to exploit. If you can't judge leading shots or have wobbly connectivity etc, a small dispersion circle isn't going to be your friend and those players are better off with less accurate area saturation to at least land a reasonable amount of shells on target. Some of these upgrades are only beneficial if you're good enough to use them. Otherwise, you're better off with the shotgun instead of the rifle. All depends of course, but generally speaking.


Edited by TungstenHitman, 09 March 2021 - 11:35 AM.
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CheefCoach's Photo CheefCoach 09 Mar 2021

View PostTungstenHitman, on 09 March 2021 - 12:28 PM, said:

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So far as altitude goes, there are bonuses starting from 200 meters(off the top of my head, sorry if I am out a bit on that one) and increases the lower you go reaching maximum camo effectiveness at 50m or lower. This is why generally radio equipment is more effective and useful on GAA's that generally keep their aircraft on the low because they are gaining the benefits of camo equipment and paint along with additional alt camo bonus...

 

That is how use to be in 1.9, but it doesn't apply anymore. 

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TungstenHitman's Photo TungstenHitman 09 Mar 2021

Good to know thanks. Might be nice if devs get rid of old info pages that no longer applies to the game, whatever it may be. Was there anything added as an alternative to altitude camo and does having a damaged smoking engine still reduce camo effect etc?
Edited by TungstenHitman, 09 March 2021 - 11:58 AM.
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