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To prevent frustration with teams and MM I play only three of the 10 tokens Dailies, all three without the win condition.

 

- kill 125 planes

- required amount of base XP when flying fighters or mutirole

- required amount of base XP when flying heavy fighters or ground atack

 

These I play calmly, knowing that each battle counts - nothing was wasted time and effort. All else I switch.

 

How about you?

 

Edited by zen_monk_, 20 March 2021 - 08:21 PM.

Usually I switch everything that contains the word "Airfield".

Because of "Daily bugs" i'm no more interested in Daily missions , sometimes i play three of the 1 token and 4 tokens . I prefer to get tokens from the first medals of the day (which are a bit bugged too lol ) .

In general i avoid missions with the win conditions since i lose battles in which i make a huge amount of points , in which i take at least 5 or 6 sectors , in which i kill at least 15 or 16 planes with at least 6 or 7 assists , in which bots took my kills  , in which i'm playing against tier 6 planes while i'm flying a tier 5 plane , in which i spent all my bombs and rockets on ground targets for nothing  , in which i do my best till the end of the battle to help my team without rage quitting in order to win but in which the MM is totally FUBAR , in which i end first of my team , in which i started to play 2 minutes later due to a "lost connection" because of the server , in which i realize our team had 2 players in less ... since the very start of the battle !

Edited by zgubny, 20 March 2021 - 02:17 PM.

I'm not paying attention to everyday missions. I focused on the airplane I studied.

I gave up on daily missions, got fed up with buggy ones which would not record results.

The only one I tend to regularly skip is the 2 turret kills in one game as I imagine it's beyond infuriating at T1-4.

I keep only:

- be the best (or top 3) in damaging air/ground targets, killing enemy planes or ADAs, cap sectors,

- fly British or German planes (you have Blenheim or 110B on IV tier),

- kill number of air targets etc.,

- 2 turret kills in 1 battle (one of the easiest),

- kill 14 air targets,

- kill 6 or 7 air targets defending the sector,

 

What I skip:

- destroy number of ground targets,

- assissts in ground targets or air targets,

- protect/cap airports,

- fly Japanese / American planes (do not have the nerves to do it on IV tier),

- probably some more idiotic missions.

From the point of view of the 10-token jobbers, the only one I would add to zen's original list is the "200 AA guns" run.

 

Am currently wading through the 2nd one on his list - MR/fighter points - and have just had a "spirited" discussion with a recent convert to the game about seal-clubbing.  He is utterly convinced that, in my Tier 4 Arado197 up against his Bf109, I was clubbing.  No opinions were changed on either side of the discussion; sadly I don't think any tactics advice was absorbed (eg don't get into turnfights against spec'd biplanes) either.

In your fully upgraded plane and skills against my 1 skill pilot? Yeah great game when your total points were double that of our top 2 players.  Sure those tier 3 planes loved you that consisted 3/4 of the team.

 

You left that bit out mate...But thank you for the advice, I did actually take it in. 

 

But hey, Missions have to be done right and WG force you to collect those tokens so carry on, nothing to see here.

 

And yes i am very convinced it's just a shame you guys don't see what you are doing it down right wrong and funny enough, destroying any hope of new players coming into the game in the long run. In fact, I am convinced you DO know it's wrong (I believe you are intelligent enough) but your simply willing to turn a blind eye, which is worse for a game you claim to enjoy.  I mean as long as you get those tokens right.

 

So how about you skip low tier missions so we "noobs" can learn the game and have some close games? How does that sound...

 

140:400 is not a close game is it Vlad my son. 2 of your 3 most played planes have been at tier 3 and 4, must be a hell of alot of missions down there ay. 

 

Apologies for wondering into the wrong room, the thread title was intriguing as I was just reading if anyone was saying they were going to skip seal clubbing territory.  As least one guy says he isn't doing turret kills? Not because it's in bloody tier 1-4, oh no, but because it's "infuriating".

 

Edited by Redcap375, 21 March 2021 - 07:38 AM.

It's kind of you to tell us where we've all gone rwong, Redcap.  I'm sure the many column-inches that have been written so far, outlining the issues players have with WG, missions, tokens, the history of WoWP and seal-clubbing can't/won't change how you see things.  Even the bit where it was explained that the only way for people who no longer wish to line WG's coffers with actual money can upgrade to premium (which is still the best way to advance your skills and purchasing-power alongside actually getting good at the game) is to swap 150 tokens for 30 days; the only way to get tokens is to complete ALL the missions.  But I'm repeating stuff expounded at length elsewhere.  Wouldn't want to keep going over old ground, would we?

 

So no, you can have your WorldOfBoats-based Alternative Facts where everyone with experience who goes below tier 6 is a Clubber, and the rest of us will carry on working with the WoWP game that WG actually dealt out.  With any luck - and with rapidly-increasing experience - you may come to see the game as those who have been playing for a while see it.  Maybe not, but I do hope you can learn to enjoy it without getting yourself really, really upset.

And become apart of the very problem?

 

Bit too hypocritical for my liking.  I'll just let u old guard carry on with the old ways and let the game die a slow death. I'm not heavily investitied in this like many of you are and not at that point where I will except any deal WG gives me and whatever terms simply to cling onto life. 

 

Sorry, carry on.. 

Edited by Redcap375, 21 March 2021 - 07:57 AM.

Redcap mate, looks like you don't get one thing: in order to fulfill the 10 tokens missions, you are forced to play Period 1 too, tiers I-IV.

 

All of us have many times pleaded WG to remove that, or to lessen the requirements in that group so the veterans would spend as less time as possible there.

 

The fight you need to have is with WG, all of us regularly on here have pleaded with them to change the rules to make the game more inviting for newcomers and give vets less reason to drop down to T1-3/4.

 

They arent interested and never have been interested in listening. Sorry, but thats the reality of the situation.

 

I played WoWS quite a lot, and I know what you mean about the different thinking their when it comes to tiers. However it's a very different game (with a different studio taking care of it), and many of its realities simply do not translate into WoWP. You've been given the argument about daily missions many times, but you somehow seem to choose to disregard that info. If you searched the forum a bit for threads and posts related to daily mission structure and how it is impacting situation on low tiers, you'd find lots and lots. As a reference, have a look at this - it also has blindfold (our CC) input, and outlines what we deem to be wrong about the daily mission structure that directly leads to veterans spending improportionate amount of time on low tiers: http://forum.worldofwarplanes.eu/index.php?/topic/53582-daily-10-token-missions/

i generally skip ground target missions but I'm not chasing tokens anymore, the only reason i can see why anyone would want them is to skip speccing a plane or for the Vamp/Xp55 missions

 

I gave up on being a token chaser long ago

 

Being a dinger if I need tokens I can deploy my wallet in an emergency

 

 

so its not an issue for me, recently ive been coaching a couple of RL noobies and have been forced to play lower tiered games. Maybe I don't notice it so much but the seal clubbing doesn't seem any worse than it used to, but then I suppose I'm technically clubbing? maybe I need to fly the worst tier 1 any suggestions 

 

For me personally I think tier 4 is where the clubbers tend to party

 

but thinking about the dailies I can see why WG set it out this way,

 

Yes, you get seal clubbers but also it helps to even out the amount of humans throughout the tiers, as I think a newcomer might get a little disheartened if they felt the game was devoid of players?

my tip would be to play low tiered games away from peak hours if I was a newcomer, or simply play a ton of tier 1 games until I could counterclub 

 

Edited by Discontinued, 22 March 2021 - 02:52 PM.

I skip the ones with the imbecille win conditions. The rest finishes eventually just by playing.