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TungstenHitman's Photo TungstenHitman 12 Apr 2021

View Postapartclassic, on 12 April 2021 - 08:21 PM, said:

 

Cheef - among others - keeps making a good point, yet it's in vain. Might I remind you that the OP who, supposedly, committed Fastest uninstall in history. Yeeeet this crapfrom me, is still playing WoWP? And TsH will not listen to you, never ever, because of Reasons™? Just let it go, folks. Everyone is entitled to personal delusions.

 

Good argument points, or rather the total lack there of, so switch to petty insults and bafflingly illogical and misplaced efforts of dismissive condescendence as per usual. 

 

So me saying specialized aircraft are better than non-specialized(which they clearly are), and as such will improve the likelihood of winning battles in the hands of an experienced player(which it does) literally makes no sense at all and is a case of me being "delusional" and for "Reasons"? lol! And no, an experienced player saying that a specialized aircraft will not improve their win rate compared to that of a non-specialized version of that same aircraft is not " keeps making a good point" it's a disingenuous lie just to spite the OP's rant thread, nothing more. They know it, YOU know it too, so drop the sad act of pretending like specialized aircraft offer no advantage to winning chances or doesn't improve the amount of battles we win over a decent sample size because it just makes you and anyone else who'd try and sell that untrue statement come across as disingenuous, petty for driving on with and actually defending that untrue statement and makes any future comments get met with distrust and interpreted as probably just another case of that person being petty to spite the argument again.

 

 All experienced players including YOU, fly specialized aircraft because they are straight up simply better aircraft obviously... this is also delusional "trade mark"? or do we all upgrade aircraft to specialization and spend hours grinding components to calibrate ultimate equipment for what's going to be an aircraft that's no better than it's non-specialized offering? maybe a worse aircraft when it's specialized? lol! Any other hilarious memes? "Just let it go, folks. Everyone is entitled to personal delusions.", this guy though... stop embarrassing yourself bro and take down that ridiculous "unicorn at play" foolishness and 1 man memeclan for goodness sake it's just cringe. Gotta grow up sometime.


Edited by TungstenHitman, 12 April 2021 - 11:33 PM.
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View PostLolrawr, on 11 April 2021 - 10:47 PM, said:

7 games in a row, 3-4 "elite" planes in the enemy team, none in my.

 

To be honest I feel I'm lucky if I even see 3 - 4 human players per team, let alone flying specialized planes.

 

 

Also, regarding the comparison of this game to WoT, I must say that this game is super easy and relaxing, as far as my experience goes. Of course it requires the skill, knowledge and situational awareness to make the most of it, but the level of the complexity, and thus stress involved, is not even in the same league as in WoT. There's no doubt that elite players will mop the floor with your average Joe, but as long as that Joe knows if he's faster / more agile than the enemy to understand when to engage, and applies a proper lead to his aim most of the times, he's already set up pretty well to have a good time here. But in WoT that would be barely scratching the surface and result in a miserable and frustrating gaming experience, and quite painful learning curve. There's a lot more abuse in WoT too, even coming in form of in-battle bullying, not just verbal impoliteness. So yeah, I'd say WoWp is way, way more new player friendly.


Edited by ClassicFrog, 13 April 2021 - 02:35 AM.
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Xzanman's Photo Xzanman 13 Apr 2021

I think something to remember is that even with two specialized planes of the same kind there can be a big difference,how far the equipment has been enhanced and calibrated and how many points are on the pilot effect the effectiveness of the Aircraft. Also how many and what consumables are used. And then there is raw player skill that can also make a specialized plane far more deadly. Also something to consider is does the equipment that has been added bring out the best in an Aircraft and also your own play style. So my point is a specialized plane can make almost no difference to a non specialized plane,or a massive difference.
As for seal clubbing it happens at all levels of the game,sometimes I'm the clubber and sometimes I'm the seal.
I think that is probably true for the majority of players ...









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drakkanax's Photo drakkanax 13 Apr 2021

Planes at low tiers are very easy to specialize so that means nothing. Also just because a plane is specialized that doesn't make it better by itself. It allows for better equipment that does make it better, but you can upgrade equipment on non specialized planes too. Also that can be expensive for new players at lower tiers, so you can meet a lot of specialized planes that are not really specialized.

Anyways on low tiers many people with specialized planes don't know how to play. As a rule you should be far more scared of something that is weak/unpopular(for example XF4U-1 or FW190A-1) and is specialized then from a specialized Spirfire I. Especially multi roles are harder to specialize so if you see a specialized multi role that means more dedication.

 

Hell I've seen plenty of specialized t10 planes that play badly.


Edited by drakkanax, 13 April 2021 - 12:49 PM.
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View Postdrakkanax, on 13 April 2021 - 01:48 PM, said:

but you can upgrade equipment on non specialized planes too. 

 

Exactly what do you mean ?? Enhancing or calibrating ?

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View PostGonerNL, on 13 April 2021 - 02:16 PM, said:

 

Exactly what do you mean ?? Enhancing or calibrating ?

 

You can do both. 

I have got planes that aren't specialized yet but have equipment at 478.

I know you don't get all the benefits but it is better than say an advanced bit of equipment on the same plane.

And even if it wasn't I'd still upgrade  and calibrate when it's ultimate just so it's ready for the plane when it's specialized.

 

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View PostMournfull, on 13 April 2021 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

You can do both. 

I have got planes that aren't specialized yet but have equipment at 478.

I know you don't get all the benefits but it is better than say an advanced bit of equipment on the same plane.

And even if it wasn't I'd still upgrade  and calibrate when it's ultimate just so it's ready for the plane when it's specialized.

 

 

To be precise, basic bonuses apply, but none of the additional ones. Max level of equipment on non-specialized plane is 278 to have bonus characteristics active.


Edited by apartclassic, 14 April 2021 - 02:11 PM.
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View PostMournfull, on 13 April 2021 - 03:31 PM, said:

You can do both. 

 

I know, but enhancing a non-specced plane is pretty useless ; the bonus characteristics don't work.

And I don't do calibration at all. A lottery.

 

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View PostGonerNL, on 13 April 2021 - 03:25 PM, said:

 

I know, but enhancing a non-specced plane is pretty useless ; the bonus characteristics don't work.

And I don't do calibration at all. A lottery.

 

Sometimes you don't care for the additional bonuses or want to use a configuration that differs from the specialized one. Also by not being specialized you attract less attention. I'm not saying it's worth it. I'm just pointing that someone might think so.

 

Also I've used fully enhanced equipment on non-specced planes myself simply because I had it in my depot.

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I also have loads of Advanced and Ultimate equipement in depot, but for a non-specced plane I rather buy a new one and then enhance it to Improved to get for instance the 10% chance of starting a fire then picking a sight from the depot with same bonus that doesn't work ...
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View PostGonerNL, on 14 April 2021 - 07:23 AM, said:

I also have loads of Advanced and Ultimate equipement in depot, but for a non-specced plane I rather buy a new one and then enhance it to Improved to get for instance the 10% chance of starting a fire then picking a sight from the depot with same bonus that doesn't work ...

So, is that how it works?

I assumed (based on no evidence), that if I used Advanced or Ultimate Equipment in a non-spec'ed aircraft, I still got the "Enhanced" benefit and the associated bonus but not the other benefits and bonuses. I.e. so there was no downside to using "spare" equipment in this way. But, equally I would not be surprised to learn that using an over-enhanced equipment causes it to stop working completely!)

 

If anyone knows for sure, it would be useful information

(It's a bit of a moot point for me because I don't do it often and all my existing planes are specialised anyway)

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zen_monk_'s Photo zen_monk_ 14 Apr 2021

For the non-specialized plane, put an equipment in the slot and upgrade only first stage, up to 200. You'll get one of the two possible perks for the first stage and that perk will work.

 

If you go the next step, on 300, you' get the second perk but now both of them don't work, marked red and clearly written "not effective". Same goes if you maximize to 400, you'd get three perks and none will work untill you spec the plane.

 

So for non-specced planes Enhance only to 200 (and Calibrate up to 260 if you like, but stay in the first upgrade group).


Edited by zen_monk_, 14 April 2021 - 11:23 AM.
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Mournfull's Photo Mournfull 14 Apr 2021

If you calibrate equipment before it's ultimate or 400 you lose calibration points so it's not worth it.

 

 

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View PostGonerNL, on 14 April 2021 - 07:23 AM, said:

I also have loads of Advanced and Ultimate equipement in depot, but for a non-specced plane I rather buy a new one and then enhance it to Improved to get for instance the 10% chance of starting a fire then picking a sight from the depot with same bonus that doesn't work ...

Well if you have 5-6 items of ultimate equipment unused in your depot, which I do of some types, it's rather silly to upgrade anew. Especially in period 1 and 2 which are the focus of this thread. Especially considering you can specialize the plane anyway in several dozens of battles.

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GonerNL's Photo GonerNL 14 Apr 2021

You could also re-assemble and keep the bonus that you want. Cost some credits and tokens, but at least your bonus works.
Edited by GonerNL, 14 April 2021 - 07:31 PM.
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