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Community #1 Posted 02 November 2021 - 01:29 PM

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On November 3, from 09:00 till 13:00 (CEST, UTC +1), the servers will undergo maintenance to deploy the 2.1.10 update. Update 2.1.10 introduces the brand-new Premium French bomber as well as balance changes for the bombers!

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SvenC333 #2 Posted 02 November 2021 - 01:34 PM

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Balance changes for the bombers seem to go in the right direction. But instead of changes in maneuverability it would be more important to reduce the bomb-damage when bombing in lower altitudes. But anyway, thx wg for trying to do something against the op bombers. :great:

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"Changed the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles for a number of Tier VI aircrafts"

Finally a nerf for the XP-54 too, via matchmaking changes. This is absolutely welcomed. 

I'm a bit sad that the Tu-12 is going to be nerfed as well, I've always felt it's the only one of tier 9-10 bombers that's actually balanced by not so great turrets.

But overall a long awaited balance change. Watching the tears of the soon to be complaining people will be fun


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blindfoId #4 Posted 02 November 2021 - 02:35 PM

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Some nuances about changes in the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles.

 

These aircraft will get into Tier VII battles more frequently:

  • xp-54
  • pe-2-m-82
  • ki-102 
  • la-5
  • me-410

These aircraft will get into Tier VI battles more frequently:

  • p-39n
  • p-51a
  • mosquito-mk26
  • spitfire-vb-im
  • mustang-I
  • xp-50


maxram68 #5 Posted 02 November 2021 - 02:37 PM

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Interesting!

...and certainly a move in the right direction.

 

Might start to play tier IX and X a bit more compared to earlier, - I'm mainly playing anything but bombers..

 

I was wondering which planes exactly are  part of the "Changed the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles for a number of Tier VI aircraft."...

...intriguing...

 

Edit: Ah - Blindfold already answered. Thanks!

 

 

 

 


Edited by maxram68, 02 November 2021 - 02:39 PM.

 


PerfectPotato #6 Posted 02 November 2021 - 02:49 PM

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Anniversary event mentioned in the notes starting at November 11 again or is it on a different schedule this time? Asking because I'm on holidays which might come in handy. 

apartclassic #7 Posted 02 November 2021 - 02:56 PM

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Lovely, I really enjoy those awkward sky whales:

 


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TungstenHitman #8 Posted 02 November 2021 - 03:39 PM

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Mostly a good move. Rinse and repeating T9 and T10 German bombers was way too easy and lazy for such strong results though it was very very convenient for completing a lot of missions in as little time as possible and with as little effort which can be nice if tired from work etc but this shake up was badly needed and will give a lot of P3 aircraft like LF's and even multi's more relevance and likelihood of being chosen... MAYBE lol.  

 

I can't give it a big like just yet because we don't know how little or heavily these bombers have been hit and so it might translate into either a nice balance first try which is unlikely, or else not much difference at all, or else way too hard a nerf making them not really worth bothering with since we can just spam P3 battles with RB-17 and B-29C which have not been adjusted in any way. Also as someone mentioned above, the T9 Tu-12 was actually balanced already which made it the weakest choice and will probably now be little more than a quick grind through and free XP sink.

 

So what it appears is some aircraft have an ALMOST pref MM, good and bad. If I may share my thought on that list for consideration @blindfold Also, I can appreciate that this list may not be a complete list but more of a taste of some aircraft from a far larger list.

View PostblindfoId, on 02 November 2021 - 02:35 PM, said:

Some nuances about changes in the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles.

 

These aircraft will get into Tier VII battles more frequently:

  • xp-54  YES  Good move to make one of the most popular tiers T5, playable again but the aircraft is still going to be just as problematic to T6 aircraft obviously
  • pe-2-m-82 NO This is a good but not problematic bomber. The almost identical but slightly slower T5 offering was the better choice imho(outside of annoying stat padding flights with a HF) since the XP-54 was introduced and arguably before that because of the Ki-102 and Me-410 etc so... now the T5 is even more attractive and this T6 much less so. Was no need to put this on the T6/T7 weighted MM list.
  • ki-102 YES
  • la-5 NO Personally I like this light fighter but it was simply a balanced light fighter. Not super strong, not weak, just a good balanced fighter. Can't out-turn plenty and can't out-speed plenty while it's 3X20 mm cannons are nice and punchy but overheat quickly and as such, just a balanced light fighter that will now struggle a bit more and be that much less likely to be played, to the point of not playing it at all actually. Compare this balanced fighter to the A6M5 with Akira.
  • me-410 YES

These aircraft will get into Tier VI battles more frequently:

  • p-39n NO A good solid fighter no doubt, I like it BUT, just like the La-5 it's just another balanced light fighter really which just like the La-5, has powerful enough short bursts of damage dealing yet overheats quickly, requires an even more experienced player used to that derpy 37mm cannon and just like the La-5, gets out-turned by plenty and out-paced by plenty. Didn't need an MM buff but will now be more popular. Btw, those that incude both the US and Soviet version or just one of them and if so which one?
  • p-51a NO COMMENT
  • mosquito-mk26 NO COMMENT Well, other than the question of if this is the UK Mosquito or the Chinese premium version.. or both?
  • spitfire-vb-im NO I think this is just another balanced light fighter. Also, why this Spit and not ALL the T6 Spits? But either way, it was just a balanced light fighter tbh.
  • mustang-I NO COMMENT
  • xp-50 YES I sold my one along with the my much liked T6 P38 tech tree as soon as I got the XP-54 and understood all the others were a distance second. It's an "ok" heavy but it would want to be a heavily weighted T5/T6 MM to make this a regular choice, and probably still not.

 


Edited by TungstenHitman, 02 November 2021 - 03:44 PM.


LordV5 #9 Posted 02 November 2021 - 04:06 PM

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For me fine with starting some balance, next pls make ballance with extreme bad , slow planes at tier 4, next attack aircrafts and another one point. Parts converter. 

 

Same like TH above me i think La-5 , pe2 m82 this ones no need more games against t7, why ? Because  La5 have own relative good pilot, after many years where was plane mid low favourite ? But we will see, how many times it was more meet t7, before this update its true from 10 battles it was 7 times cca against t6 and 5.



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Can't say anything till I see how the changes are affecting the actual gameplay on IX and X tier. Frankly speaking with tier VI heavies I tend to be uptierred for almost 80% of the fights - will it be 90% now with XP54, Ki-102 or Me410?

Having this opportunity of what I can see is a wish concert I would like the WG to take a look on the multirole class. Overall it is a demending class to handle and in general is lacking both speed and altitude performance. You are adjusting the bombers on IX and X tier - no problem with that but at the same time take a look on the multis in order to make them more playable than now.

Furthermore, maybe also take a look on the 1101 on X tier. Seems to be too easy to fly  and is spammed all the time.

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Xzanman #11 Posted 02 November 2021 - 04:44 PM

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100% agree with Prawie on the multi-roles and the p1101.

I don't think the bomber changes will make much difference,depends what human payers are using on each team.

 



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Fantastic..especially because of that French Potez...hoping for a French tech tree :honoring:

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I am glad  X-54 ("Ace maker") would get more friequently into tier VII matches, where it sincerely  belongs.

 

And even then, I am still having problems  to deal with it in normal tier VII fighters, but,I will learn I hope.

 


Edited by _DinDjarin_, 02 November 2021 - 05:50 PM.


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Those changes on the high tier bombers look promising. Lets hope that EF 131 spam ends or at least its easier to counter. However, a plane that didnt need this nerf is the Tu-12 and in my opinion should be excluded of this nerf in a future patch. As for the tier 6 MM changes, i liked them, specialy on the Ki-102, the XP-54 and the Me 410 while i cant see why nerf the Pe-2 M82, it was fairly balanced IMO.

 

Finaly, i like that you start to put more stuff in the European tech tree. While the tier 3 isnt really my playground, i would like to play a couple o matches with something different. is going to have 4 × 225 kg (496 lb) bombs or 10 × 55 kg (121 lbs) bombs??

 

As for whishlist i want to see the IAR 81 and Potez 631 in tier 5, the SM. 91 in tier 7 (or 8) and the P.108B and G5N in tier 8 (since it doesnt seem like we are getting any new lines...)

 

 


Edited by elias_the_great, 02 November 2021 - 05:50 PM.


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View Postelias_the_great, on 02 November 2021 - 05:49 PM, said:

Those changes on the high tier bombers look promising. Lets hope that EF 131 spam ends or at least its easier to counter. However, a plane that didnt need this nerf is the Tu-12 and in my opinion should be excluded of this nerf in a future patch. As for the tier 6 MM changes, i liked them, specialy on the Ki-102, the XP-54 and the Me 410 while i cant see why nerf the Pe-2 M82, it was fairly balanced IMO.

 

Finaly, i like that you start to put more stuff in the European tech tree. While the tier 3 isnt really my playground, i would like to play a couple o matches with something different. is going to have 4 × 225 kg (496 lb) bombs or 10 × 55 kg (121 lbs) bombs??

 

As for whishlist i want to see the IAR 81 and Potez 631 in tier 5, the SM. 91 in tier 7 (or 8) and the P.108B and G5N in tier 8 (since it doesnt seem like we are getting any new lines...)

 

 

 

Truth be told, I'm not too happy about this newest addition, for two reasons. For one, it's yet another bomber - nuff said. For two, it's t3, and as such, I will get it, specc it within and hour or two, and then forget about it, rolling it out maybe once or twice a year. I do appreciate a freebie, and I do appreciate the fact it's French (not one of the major national lines), but in my eyes it is just a curio - an odd ball that will be interesting for an hour or two and then forgotten. Still though, it's better than nothing, right?


Edited by apartclassic, 02 November 2021 - 06:03 PM.

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View PostblindfoId, on 02 November 2021 - 02:35 PM, said:

Some nuances about changes in the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles.

 

These aircraft will get into Tier VII battles more frequently:

  • xp-54
  • pe-2-m-82
  • ki-102 
  • la-5
  • me-410

These aircraft will get into Tier VI battles more frequently:

  • p-39n
  • p-51a
  • mosquito-mk26
  • spitfire-vb-im
  • mustang-I
  • xp-50

My question is, what will happen if players flight up with a plane from the 1st group with a plane from the 2nd group? Will they equal each other out, like this patch never happened? :amazed:


 

 

 


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View PostblindfoId, on 02 November 2021 - 02:35 PM, said:

Some nuances about changes in the chances of getting into Tier VI – VII battles.

 

These aircraft will get into Tier VII battles more frequently:

  • xp-54
  • pe-2-m-82
  • ki-102 
  • la-5
  • me-410

These aircraft will get into Tier VI battles more frequently:

  • p-39n
  • p-51a
  • mosquito-mk26
  • spitfire-vb-im
  • mustang-I
  • xp-50

 

Glad to see you can see something needs tweaking but if those planes very tier strong why not nerf them a little and buff the ones which are weak for their tier?

I'd have thought this would make it simpler and not mess with the MM.

 



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so we get  a french bomber  and still no british ones are we playing in 2 markets  NA and  east of Paris 

and will the  t6 heavies start to fly as fast as the t10  air defence  me410s and hornets 


Edited by Woolfie_aka_paca_chatban, 02 November 2021 - 10:26 PM.


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View PostPerfectPotato, on 02 November 2021 - 05:49 PM, said:

Anniversary event mentioned in the notes starting at November 11 again or is it on a different schedule this time? Asking because I'm on holidays which might come in handy. 

 

Somewhere around this date, yes :honoring:

 



ArchangelThunderbird_GB_ #20 Posted 03 November 2021 - 01:38 PM

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Shame they couldn't have fixed the ridiculously unrealistic and unfair advantage bots have in head-on collisions, and how they often still magically get you, even if you turn.
It's the one thing that bothers me the most in this game. It's enough to make ppl give up in disgust, so I can't imagine why it hasn't been rectified already. 

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